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From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host3/7/18 9:45 AM 
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WaPo: A member of the Trump administration has again been found in violation of the Hatch Act, a federal law prohibiting the mixing of partisan politics with official government business. But anybody waiting for Kellyanne Conway's reckoning will have to keep waiting.

In a statement in response to the Office of Special Counsel's finding that Conway violated the Hatch Act twice, the White House signaled that not only will Conway not be punished, but also that she isn't even guilty. Its logic, though, has more holes than Swiss cheese. The whole statement is brazen, in fact.

Here's what White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said:

Kellyanne Conway did not advocate for or against the election of any particular candidate. She simply expressed the president's obvious position that he have people in the House and Senate who support his agenda. In fact, Kellyanne's statements actually show her intention and desire to comply with the Hatch Act — as she twice declined to respond to the host's specific invitation to encourage Alabamians to vote for the Republican.

Let's begin with the background.

In an interview with “Fox and Friends” in November, Conway was asked whether President Trump had the votes to pass his tax-cut bill. But rather than focus on senators set to vote on the legislation, she took the opportunity to attack Doug Jones, the Democrat running in the Alabama special Senate election against Roy Moore. “Folks, don’t be fooled,” Conway said. “He’ll be a vote against tax cuts. He’s weak on crime, weak on borders. He’s strong on raising your taxes. He’s terrible for property owners.” What makes this especially problematic: Conway was introduced by her White House title and was standing in front of the White House.

The second violation came in a Dec. 6 interview on CNN in which Conway was again clearly speaking in her official capacity. And again she attacked Jones. “He'll be a reliable vote for tax hikes,” she said. “He'll be a reliable vote against border security. He'll be a reliable vote against national security and keeping ISIS, and he'll be a reliable vote against the Second Amendment, against life.”

In both of these cases, the White House rather remarkably contends that Conway wasn't advocating “against the election of any particular candidate.” She just happened to attack Jones repeatedly for being “weak” and “terrible” on good things and a “reliable” vote against other good things.

 
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From: Bike (URALTOURIST1) DelphiPlus Member Icon3/8/18 10:44 AM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (2 of 8) 
 110808.2 in reply to 110808.1 

Hatch Act is one of the most sweeping and unenforceable enactments in history, you did know that it is a violation of the Hatch Act to wear a campaign button on personal clothing while at work in a government facility or to wear that same button on an identifiable federal government identifiable uniform item of clothing?

 

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From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host3/8/18 10:46 AM 
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 110808.3 in reply to 110808.2 

That’s not what Kellyanne did. Go ahead and blame the law, though. 

 
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From: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon3/8/18 11:01 AM 
To: Bike (URALTOURIST1) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (4 of 8) 
 110808.4 in reply to 110808.2 

Seems pretty clear to me.  A govt employee serves ALL the people, not the candidate he supports.  Do that stuff on your own time, not ours.

 

 
From: Bike (URALTOURIST1) DelphiPlus Member Icon3/8/18 5:51 PM 
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 110808.5 in reply to 110808.4 

A government employee is ALWAYS on the clock for Hatch Act purposes, that very employment colors all actions of any sort during the period of employ.  There is NO SUCH THING as your own time.

 

Warren
 
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From: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon3/8/18 8:18 PM 
To: Bike (URALTOURIST1) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (6 of 8) 
 110808.6 in reply to 110808.5 

Okay.  I thought that was the one about using your means of work for political purposes.

 

 
From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host3/8/18 8:22 PM 
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Bike (URALTOURIST1) said...

A government employee is ALWAYS on the clock for Hatch Act purposes, that very employment colors all actions of any sort during the period of employ.  There is NO SUCH THING as your own time.

Executive branch personnel are more restricted than other government employees, including Congressional employees. Most federal employees are allowed to campaign, electioneer as long as they do this on their own time and not on government property or use government materials. 

 
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From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host3/8/18 8:22 PM 
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 110808.8 in reply to 110808.6 

the Hatch Act has more stringent rules for executive office personnel. Other government employees have restrictions that are more in line with what you are referring

 
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