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From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by host6/4/18 10:58 AM 
To: All Poll  (1 of 36) 
Is the President above the law?
Not sure/mixed feelings
Depends on the president

25 people have voted so far

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From: BlueManDude6/4/18 11:03 AM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Poll  (2 of 36) 
 112140.2 in reply to 112140.1 

"Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case, the President cannot pardon himself." Aug. 5, 1974 DOJ opinion, 4 days before Richard Nixon resigned. It's right there on the DOJ website:


From: BlueManDude6/4/18 11:03 AM 
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From: BlueManDude6/4/18 12:17 PM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Poll  (4 of 36) 
 112140.4 in reply to 112140.1 

Sen. Grassley to CNN: “If I were President of the United States and I had a lawyer that told me I could pardon myself, I think I would hire a new lawyer."


From: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon6/4/18 12:18 PM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Poll  (5 of 36) 
 112140.5 in reply to 112140.1 

The law is no more or less than the willingness of authorities to enforce it.  In the case of Trump, I really doubt that the congressional Republicans would be willing to impeach or convict on *anything," so in practical terms, yes he is.


From: Fouledanchor6/4/18 12:20 PM 
To: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon Poll  (6 of 36) 
 112140.6 in reply to 112140.5 
Impeachment has nothing to do with the law. It is a political process.

From: BlueManDude6/4/18 12:26 PM 
To: Fouledanchor Poll  (7 of 36) 
 112140.7 in reply to 112140.6 

BS, as with most of your BS legal claims.

Impeachment is constitutional law.

You come up with the wackiest crap, is this what your secret primary source is pushing today?


From: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon6/4/18 1:05 PM 
To: Fouledanchor Poll  (8 of 36) 
 112140.8 in reply to 112140.6 

Then why is it in place to deal with "high crimes and misdemeanors?"


From: Fouledanchor6/4/18 3:23 PM 
To: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon Poll  (9 of 36) 
 112140.9 in reply to 112140.8 

Really Paul? id you just crawl out from under a rock?

The convention adopted “high crimes and misdemeanors” with little discussion. Most of the framers knew the phrase well. Since 1386, the English parliament had used “high crimes and misdemeanors” as one of the grounds to impeach officials of the crown. Officials accused of “high crimes and misdemeanors” were accused of offenses as varied as misappropriating government funds, appointing unfit subordinates, not prosecuting cases, not spending money allocated by Parliament, promoting themselves ahead of more deserving candidates, threatening a grand jury, disobeying an order from Parliament, arresting a man to keep him from running for Parliament, losing a ship by neglecting to moor it, helping “suppress petitions to the King to call a Parliament,” granting warrants without cause, and bribery. Some of these charges were crimes. Others were not. The one common denominator in all these accusations was that the official had somehow abused the power of his office and was unfit to serve.


From: Black Cat (NYTSHADE) DelphiPlus Member Icon6/4/18 3:27 PM 
To: Fouledanchor Poll  (10 of 36) 
 112140.10 in reply to 112140.9 

So is this the new RW gospel - that all impeachment is just politics and not actual wrongdoing?  I guess that would make sense since you guys have been denying that ACTUAL CRIMES have been committed by Trump's minions and that this is all just a WITCH HUNT!!

Trump is a criminal surrounded by criminals.  They should be held accountable for their actions - and not their politics.


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