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From: blackgold516/22/02 5:05 AM 
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 557.1 

On Obsessions or When Being Black Is Not Enough
Vernellia Randall

http://academic.udayton.edu/race/01race/obsess.htm

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Edited 7/27/2002 5:43:58 AM ET by blackgold51
 
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From: wanbli5296/22/02 1:29 PM 
To: blackgold51  (2 of 5) 
 557.2 in reply to 557.1 
"When Natives kicked their children out because they had a drop of black blood"

Most Indians I know wouldn't "kick their children out" for any reason. We DO, however, note that if an Indian man marries a white woman, and his children marry white women, and so on, they will eventually get government jobs before we will, and will oftentimes turn on us. GOONs was a classic example. As was Ed "Eagle Man" McGaa and other plastic shamans. I came to call them mestizos feos.

There are a few black sham-men, but not many. There are also Asian sham-men, and even a few blood sham-men, whom I really despise. Vincent "Sun Bear" LaDuke is the most famous example.

 

 
From: stormshaddow6/23/02 11:39 PM 
To: blackgold51  (3 of 5) 
 557.3 in reply to 557.1 
>>When white people kicked their children out because they had a drop of black blood
. . . we accepted them<<

No WE didn't!
I have many Biracial (Black/White) friends. And they weren't treated as equals. They were often 'kept on the outside looking in'.

>>When Natives kicked their children out because they had a drop of black blood
. . we accepted them.<<

No WE didn't!
"Take it from someone who's not Black enough for Blacks. And not Red enough for Indians."

>>When Asians kicked their children out because they had a drop of black blood
. . we accepted them.<<

No WE didn't!
Tiger Woods wasn't accepted as Black until he became a multimillionaire.

storm

 

 
From: blackgold516/24/02 9:40 AM 
To: stormshaddow  (4 of 5) 
 557.4 in reply to 557.3 

My background, experience has been quite the opposite. And as far as Tiger Woods, from what I recall, there was a lot of controversy over his ethnicity (which to me was unneccessary); and I believe a part of it was that he wanted to be recognized as being African-American and Thai, for who he really is. But, as far as the black community not accepting him, I don't think that was a problem.

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Edited 6/24/2002 9:42:39 AM ET by blackgold51
 

 
From: ctj5276/26/02 9:08 AM 
To: stormshaddow  (5 of 5) 
 557.5 in reply to 557.3 
There's a difference from what some have been led to presume as
opposed what you and I know to be true...

But do try to be patient/understanding/forgiving...

Others simply didn't know what we've been thru...

The issue and problem is this: Once, the indigenous people shared
these lands with folk much like themselves, i. e., before the
coming of the white europeans...

After the coming of the white europeans their dominion over most of
the land was stolen away from them...

Ditto their various ways of sustaining themselves...

And so on...

Add to that: The mating (by choice or by chance) with people of
other ethnic/racial groups...

My point?

Among today's indigenous folk are a lot of mixed bloods...

Folks like us...

But how does the mixed blood who looks Asian get along with the
mixed blood who looks black/African?

Simply put: Even our peoples' notion of identity has become
Eurocentric or a bad reaction to it...

And both viewpoints are awfully archaic...

Nevertheless: The first question that we should be trying to
answer here is how shall we as mixed bloods relate to each
other?

Change and growth come slowly (if at all) to the native folk
who continue to be in already established bands and tribes...

So if we intend to survive and maintain our own unique indigenous heritage that will be a reflection of our own words and deeds...

Thanks for reading/listening...

Peace...

 

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