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From: cherokee783/1/03 4:13 PM 
To: All  (1 of 14) 
 651.1 
Greetings my fellow black Indian brothers and sisters as well as supporters of our desire to reclaim our heritage. The Descendants of Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes Association,an Oklahoma based non-profit corporation has finally established its organizational website at www.freedmen5tribes.com. Areas posted include history of the Freedmen, myths about black Indians, reasons for exclusion of the Freedmen descendants by the US government and the 5 nations, etc. We invite you visit us at our website. In the nearby future, our membership application will be posted on the website, however, applications can be obtained through me or through the address on the website.
 
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From: pohon3/10/03 5:55 PM 
To: cherokee78  (2 of 14) 
 651.2 in reply to 651.1 
My Freind,
Mvto;
You are a Light in the Darkness, as We try to find our Way Home,
to this I will say Thanks.
Pohon Perryman
Muscogee By Blood!!!
 

 
From: cherokee783/10/03 8:53 PM 
To: pohon unread  (3 of 14) 
 651.3 in reply to 651.2 
Greetings my Afro-Creek brother. It is good to have your support in the struggle. Much of our history has been lost, thanks to the tragedy of Oklahoma Statehood. But the time is coming when our true history will come to the open and our people will once again claim their heritage and will once again demand their rights, not as 1 or 2 but as a great force. Take care and GOd bless you.
 

 
From: ctj5273/11/03 10:38 AM 
To: cherokee78  (4 of 14) 
 651.4 in reply to 651.1 
Good luck with your website...

Peace...

 

 
From: cherokee783/11/03 9:58 PM 
To: ctj527  (5 of 14) 
 651.5 in reply to 651.4 
Thank you CTJ527.
 

 
From: ctj5273/12/03 10:40 AM 
To: cherokee78  (6 of 14) 
 651.6 in reply to 651.5 
Osiyo, cousin...

And I hope that you won't mind if I ask a personal question?

Hoping that you won't I'll just ask it...

Ok?

Ok...

At this point: What can you pass along in terms of any oral history you've heard as to the coming into the tribes of people of African
descent and onwards?

Please let me know...

Thanks in advance...

And: You're also very welcomed...

Take care...

Peace...

 

 
From: cherokee783/12/03 9:00 PM 
To: ctj527  (7 of 14) 
 651.7 in reply to 651.6 
Osiyo Cousin, always good to chat with you. Well, because many of the relatives who would have had good history to pas down were almost too old to remember things by the time I was up and running, and unfortunately, many of my other relatives were not interested in family stories and histories when the old Dawes enrollees were younger, so much family history was lost. However, I do know through short histories (which were taken down long ago from the mouths of the elders hear and there) that some family members came on the trail of tears from the old country. One older family member recently told me about how an ancestor had died, falling into a river prior to the Dawes enrollment. I encourage you that if you have any very elderly family members, please write down their stories before they are lost. I think right now there are very few Dawes enrollees (whether freedmen or non-freedmen) left now since they closed the rolls in 1906. The Cherokee nation of Oklahoma honored a couple of people last year; they were listed in the official tribal newspaper, I dont remember their names. the Creek nation honored an original enrollee last year, California Fixico; this was noted in the Native American Times. I know some people who have some of the old languages and the traditional cooking from the feet of the old ones. sometimes i envy that.
 

 
From: Chief Eaglefether (APACHEPASS)3/13/03 4:44 AM 
To: cherokee78  (8 of 14) 
 651.8 in reply to 651.1 
Thank you for that link, I recently went there but the link was shut down for maintenance but I'll check back later.

I hope all is well, blessings

Chief Eaglefeather

BlackIndians.com

 

 
From: ctj5273/13/03 9:11 AM 
To: cherokee78  (9 of 14) 
 651.9 in reply to 651.7 
Osiyo back at cha...

And thank you for your reply...

But, however much I regret whatever has been lost, Iit is also a part
of our adult responsibility to add new chapters to the history books,
i. e., via our own words and deeds, via the here and now...

It was first and foremost the misdeeds of other folk which brought
some of our brown and black forebears together, i. e., some as
enslaved human beings, then others as allies and freedom fighters,
here/there/everywhere...

If in the past, some fell victim to the divide and conquer tactics
of our peoples' common enemies, that was then and this is now...

I just seek to figure out who is friend or foe via the present
day mix...

Then, too--there just may not be enough time et al to approach
certain issues and problems via more or less conventional
ways and means...

So back to the present...

Yes...

I honor anybody of both indigenous and african descent because
it was a feat of great courage to even suffer thru that one
way voyage...

And yes...

What happened once they got here was and is truly inspiring...

But some indigenous folk feel and think otherwise about that
aforementioned intercultural blending...

It is something they would've wished hadn't happened at all...

And there's the rub...

But what was done can't be undone at this late date...

More to the point?

Some of our differences with them go well beyond red apples on white fantasy trips...

So I need and want to know more about the origins of the rise of
that mixed indian/african culture for some easy to recognize
reasons?

I have been posting on another indigenous message board for months
now...

And they would like to know a lot more about us...

Which one?

www.firstnations.com

Of course...

(Smile)...

Oh, and by the way, there's a 'angry young red brotha' who has
quite a bit to say about what he presumes and assumes is wrong
with us, too...

He claims that he is also Cherokee...

Well it's all real...

And time will tell...

Regardless: Thanks for listening...

And: More food for thought...

Peace...

 

 
From: cherokee783/13/03 11:05 AM 
To: Chief Eaglefether (APACHEPASS)  (10 of 14) 
 651.10 in reply to 651.8 
Hello there Chief Eaglefeather, I just now pressed on the link and you are right, it didnt go to it (the address). however. when I actually typed in the letters and numbers in the address bar it does go to the website. Try it that way for now. Well try to get the mystery solved.
 

 
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