I'm Oklahoma Mvskoke, Creek. I've lived with the Seminole in Florida since 1978. I have grand children there, as well as friends and relatives, from the Ok. and FL. Seminole, and Ok. and Qualla Cherokee,
In Florida there is a strong historical, and blood tie, to the Ashante people that stood and helped fight for freedom, family and country. If you were to travel, get out from behind your computer, and meet the people, it would be VERY obvious of that "tie"
At last, somebody who is either an actual tribal member, or-- since you live among--perhaps you can answer some of my questions!
But, not until you did identify who you were and are , would I have had a clue as to who to ask?
Do keep that in mind!
Now I'm going to accept your commentary as rhetorical:
Since it is a big continent, and some of us are doing the best we can, based on our limited resources, too!
The former chairman of the Florida Seminole, James Billie, made a concerted effort to re-unite / repatriate, the descendants of the Seminole /Ashante blood mix. These descendants are now citizens of Seminole Tribe of Florida. This blood mix extends to families that were marched to exile in the Oklahoma Indian Territory.
Good to know!
And good for him!!
In the past, some of the people had adopted the peculiar practice of slavery. At the end of the "War Between the States", these people were "freed".
The "Freedmen" were given "the vote" in the Oklahoma Indian Nations by the U.S. Federal Government , at the end of the (un) Civil War. This was one aspect of a war reparation policy to push the already bankrupt Indian governments to further subjugation. As might be noted the US government did NOT emulate the same policy in regards to their own "Freedmen"
It would also help if you reminded the other posters that some displaced/relocated tribes sided with the Confederacy during the
U. S., Civil War, and what was conceded when their side lost--as in the freeing of their african/indigenous descended slaves freedom and them being giving the option of joining those tribes as equal members et al--was determined by the way of treaties between the displaced southeastern tribes and the commanders of the union army aka the winning side?
Nothing was merely based on word of mouth...
Recently, in accord with the policy of political self determination, the OKLAHOMA Seminole Nation, voted to discontinue extending "the vote" regarding the effects to their national policies, to non-blood related, non-Indian "Freedmen".
I'm glad that I reread what you wrote?
I've deleted my original part of this post because of it!
Just who were or are you referring to here?
And how were the cases of ousted Seminole Freedmen descended tribal members Sylvia Davis (who alleged she was and is a descendant of a very legendary past Seminole tribal member) et al
There have been individuals on the internet that have, either through ignorance, or intentional application of character flaw, tried to paint this as an issue of "racial intolerance".
I encourage you to travel and get to know the people first hand.
Some former--now ousted--Cherokee Freedmen descendants are alleging that...
I suggest it had and has to do with certain other parties greed and their politics...
Time will tell...
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Edited 5/15/2005 5:35 pm ET by ctj527