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From: stormshaddow8/13/06 2:18 PM 
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Election sought to decide status of black freedmen

By Anthony Thornton
The Oklahoman

TAHLEQUAH - Organizers seeking an election on whether to remove black freedmen descendants from the Cherokee Nation rolls said they obtained more than 3,000 signatures for a petition they filed Friday.
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Cherokee Nation

That total represents 42 percent of the number of votes cast in the last election for principal chief, petition organizers said. Petition organizers said they think they need about 2,100 valid signatures to put the measure on the ballot.
They want a special election this fall for a constitutional amendment on whether Cherokee Nation members must have a Cherokee ancestor.
The petition drive follows a March ruling by the tribe's high court, which said the tribe unconstitutionally was requiring citizens to trace ancestry to a person with Cherokee, Shawnee or Delaware blood.
Freedmen were former slaves of Cherokees who were made Cherokee Nation citizens in 1866. More than 100 years later, Cherokees voted to exclude freedmen and their descendants.
After the court ruling, freedmen must prove only that they are descendants of a person on the Dawes Rolls.
"People will always disagree on who is culturally Cherokee and who possesses enough Cherokee blood to be 'racially' Indian," the ruling states. "It is not the role of this Court to engage in these political or social debates."
A representative of the Descendants of Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes estimated the ruling would affect 13,000 Oklahomans.
As of Aug. 1, more than 1,000 descendants had filed papers seeking to become members of the country's second-largest American Indian tribe, spokesman Mike Miller said.
Verifying the signatures will be done by the tribe's court system, said Patsy Eads-Morton, a Cherokee Nation election commissioner. She said that process will be done in the next few weeks.
If enough signatures are verified, either Principal Chief Chad Smith or the tribal council can set an election.
Smith disagreed with the court ruling and has advocated an election.
"I think it's obvious the people want a special election on this," said Jodie Fishinghawk, a petition organizer.
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From: stormshaddow8/15/06 2:41 PM 
To: Beattybug (BCD3) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (2 of 6) 
 719.2 in reply to 719.1 
Looks like they are willing to do whatever it takes to disenfranchise thousands of Freedmen.

From: Beattybug (BCD3) DelphiPlus Member Icon8/15/06 8:18 PM 
To: stormshaddow  (3 of 6) 
 719.3 in reply to 719.2 

Many of the Native Americans, especially those who are Native and White are predjudice against Blacks.  They don't care that you have Native ancestory.   They don't want you to be part of it.

I think Black Natives should form their own thing.  Who cares about being on a role or having a card anyway.   If you know who you are and where you come from, that's all that matters.  No other ethnic group that I know of have to be on a list called a role or have a card stating that they are part of that group.  

Long as you know who you are, that's all that matters.   It's obivous they aren't going to let you in to their groups.




From: stormshaddow8/18/06 11:48 PM 
To: Beattybug (BCD3) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (4 of 6) 
 719.4 in reply to 719.3 
A census roll conducted by a foreign government.

From: ctj5278/22/06 8:48 AM 
To: Beattybug (BCD3) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (5 of 6) 
 719.5 in reply to 719.3 

Good morning,  Bee Bee...

And hello again!

But it was/is about a wee bit more than one mixed blood group discriminating against another mixed race group...

Y'see,   we black indians are expected to be prejudged by one set of standards,  while others aren't being held accountable at all!

Many indigenous mainstays who post on these message boards choose to believe otherwise:

Other black indians present other takes on these particular subjects...

By the way:

Not all of the other black indian folk are undocumenated and/or in the usual tribes/nations most of us usually write/talk about on this forum either...






From: Beattybug (BCD3) DelphiPlus Member Icon8/22/06 5:10 PM 
To: ctj527  (6 of 6) 
 719.6 in reply to 719.5 

Yup, I know.     :o)




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