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From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostFeb-9 9:47 AM 
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bite me, Joe. If you are a mayor, it is important to take care of the needs of residents - where it is rebuilding major infrastructure or pet chip scans or snow removal. I understand Biden is behind and needs to fight back, but this is a bad way to go about it. BTW, I love Joe Biden, but this approach is wrong and will backfire. I remember when Rudy got up in the 2008 Republican convention and mocked Obama as a community organizer. This feels the same

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KEENE, N.H. - The gloves are really starting to come off just three days away from the critical New Hampshire Democratic primary.

On Saturday, Joe Biden’s campaign released a digital ad mocking Pete Buttigieg over his prior experience running South Bend, Indiana, a city with a population of just over 100,000 residents.

The roughly minute-and-a-half spot is part of an ongoing effort by Biden to contrast his record as Barack Obama’s vice president with that of the 38-year-old Buttigieg, who has been surging in the polls in the Granite State.v

  • Edited February 9, 2020 1:05 pm  by  Marci (marcinmin)
 
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From: oldmillotFeb-9 4:47 PM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (2 of 16) 
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The pup has not seen the Biden political advertisement about Buttigieg. 

But here is a general observation about Buttigieg. Trump slanders and flings racist, sexest, hateful vitriol at all Democrats. Why isn't Trump flinging rabid anti-Gay diatribes against Mayor Pete? Why are scores of billionaires (right wing arseholes) throwing oodles of money at the Buttigieg campaign? 

The pooch doesn't blame a politician for taking the money and running with it. Politicians want to be elected and one would assume that they feel that they can do positive good by being in office, no matter where the money comes from. 

But the pup has to wonder, do these billionaires give Mayor Pete their money because they want him to win in November, or only because they want him to win the Democratic Party nomination? Can they be that cynical, that corrupt? Of course they can! They have mountains of money. Isn't this really their most cost effective way to insure that Trump gets re-elected? It would appear so. 

After watching the US Senate in action during the Impeachment Trial, can anyone doubt that the Republicans are not sufficiently corrupt and cynical to not try to rig the election by getting the Democrats to nominate Mayor Pete? How can anyone believe otherwise? 

And does Trump refrain from his usual slander, lies and hate bating because he is so very compassionate and supportive of LGBT rights or is it because he sees a gay Democratic opponent in November as his best chance to retain the Presidency? And is Trump just saving up his hate and vitriol for when it will do him the most political good, that is after the Democratic Convention this summer? Often the best "tell" is what someone doesn't do, rather than what they do. And by not going after Mayor Pete with hateful hammer and tongs, now, it is a sure tell that Trump would very much  like to run against Mayor Pete, in the autumn. 

It would be best for Trump if Mayor Pete was not only gay, but also a Muslim and a woman, but Trump has to see running against Mayor Pete as his best chance for reelection. 

Anti-LGBT sentiment festers deeply in America. We should not discount that seething hatred for the "other". 

Just an observation. 

Arf!

 

  • Edited February 9, 2020 4:50 pm  by  oldmillot
 

 
From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostFeb-9 5:48 PM 
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The average campaign donation in the Buttigieg campaign is under $40. So far Trump hasn’t  attacked Pete for being gay but his supporters sure are, especially in social media. There are plenty of “right wingers” supporting Bernie because Trump thinks he will be easy to beat. The Russian backed Fake Facebook and Twitter accounts back Bernie for the same reason. 

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From: oldmillotFeb-9 6:07 PM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (4 of 16) 
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Since Citizens United, billionaires put their unlimited contributions of money into the black box of political advocacy groups, not directly into a candidate's own political campaign hope chest, so that they can remain anonymous as they manipulate from behind the curtain. The pup is also sure that Bernie (the Socialist/Communist) is receiving right wing funding as well as is Mayor Pete.It is always safe for Fascists to run against Communism in America. 

But what the pooch is noting, is that it has become most cost effective for the right wing billionaires to support candidates on the Democratic side who they think will lose to Trump than to funnel their funds into the Trump campaign, itself. We are seeing a lot of that happening during this primary season, and it is putting some big fat thumbs on the scale. 

Arf!  

 

 
From: oldmillotFeb-11 11:42 AM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (5 of 16) 
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The microcosm reflects the macrocosm. The actions of the Trump plutocrats reflects the actions of the Trump peons. The Trumpites cheat big time, and they cheat small time....Arf!

“At the rally, (Trump) urged New Hampshire independents who support him—people are allowed to vote in either party’s primary—to instead back ‘the weakest’ Democratic candidate Tuesday,” according to the AP.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/02/trump-advisers-secret-service-interfere-new-hampshire-democrats.html

 

 

 
From: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostFeb-11 12:26 PM 
To: oldmillot  (6 of 16) 
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That is the issue I have of allowing independents to vote in primaries and caucuses. I increased interest and turnout, but allows for shenanigans from opposing parties

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From: oldmillotFeb-11 3:07 PM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (7 of 16) 
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The pooch is sure that such shenanigans have happened in the past, with a wink and a nod. But we live in a time when the President of the United States now feels empowered to openly tell folks to cheat in order to help him win re-election. We live in evil times. 

Here in Oklahoma, Independents can vote in the Democratic Primary but not in the Republican Primary. It normally makes good sense. The Republicans control the State, and Oklahoma is the reddest of Red States. By allowing independents to vote in the Democratic Primary it can potentially convert some few Independent voters to the Democratic party. But the pup is certain that this scam will now become standard Trumpite/Republican dirty tricks wherever Independents can vote in Democratic Primaries. Trump will call out the Independents to vote for the Democratic candidate who is least likely to succeed. Here in Oklahoma, the vast bulk of Independents are actually Libertarians or such far right wing extremists that even the Republicans are too "liberal" for their tastes. They are just the sort of people who would love to play dirty tricks on the "GoddamnLiberals". 

It's going to be one Hell of an election year. Arf!

 

 

 
From: Marcus Tullius Cicero (MTCicero) DelphiPlus Member IconFeb-16 9:55 AM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (8 of 16) 
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Watched the ad, as posted in the article (on YouTube). It was pretty nasty. Hard to compare having been mayor to having been VPOTUS. Even so...

 

 
From: Marcus Tullius Cicero (MTCicero) DelphiPlus Member IconFeb-16 9:55 AM 
To: oldmillot  (9 of 16) 
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oldmillot said...

The pup has not seen the Biden political advertisement about Buttigieg. 

Pup Dog? Is it truly thou?

Or are there more than one pup on Delphi?

If only one, thou shalt surely remember me.

 

 
From: Marcus Tullius Cicero (MTCicero) DelphiPlus Member IconFeb-16 9:55 AM 
To: Marci (marcinmin) DelphiPlus Member Icon  (10 of 16) 
 39543.10 in reply to 39543.6 

Marci (marcinmin) said...

That is the issue I have of allowing independents to vote in primaries and caucuses. I increased interest and turnout, but allows for shenanigans from opposing parties

Agreed. And this is true for both Republican and Democratic primaries. There were rumors in 2008 of Democrats voting for McCain in Republican caucuses and primaries. If true, the tactic worked. Of course, one of McCain's main rivals was Romney, and he did no better vs Obama in 2012.

 

 
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