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Race Day medication reform   Horse Racing

Started by LyndaP31; 54793 views.
Greg J. (Wookster8)

From: Greg J. (Wookster8)

8/11/11

While I don't always agree with Mr. Paulick, I agree 110% on this statement:

"While I understand both sides of this argument, I side with the Graded Stakes Committee. Someone has to be looking out for the best long-term interests of the game, and this reasonable decision does just that"

Of course Horsemen are pissed off about this call, but, this isn't all about them, it is all about the horse and the future in breeding sound horses here in the U.S. 

Baby steps? Yes, but still a step in the right direction.

Bravo!

Amy (1pony)
Staff

From: Amy (1pony)

8/11/11

Once again Greg you are so correct. Baby steps and if we keep breeding the inferior horse who bleeds we will keep racing weaker horses till we kill off the race horse as we know it today.
twigs6652

From: twigs6652

8/12/11

Very interesting article.  Are American horses the only horses that use lasix?  The article mentioned "overseas" horses don't unless they come here to race.  How do the "overseas" horses do without using the drug as in do they remain healthy enough to race?

I was also surprised to read that our horsemen are almost universally opposed to the ban!  Who is he talking about - breeders, owners trainers?  When I read things like this, I also wonder what else they are opposed to.  For example are they opposed to retirement funds for their horses which will cost them additional money?

Lauren

Amy (1pony)
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From: Amy (1pony)

8/12/11

Lauren as far as I know Lasix is only allowed as a race day medication in North America ie America and Canada. Horses are trained differently in Europe than in America. Horses in Europe stay at their trainers farms and they have straight gallops these can include up and down hills. I believe the horses gallop and also do little wind spurt type faster gallops. Horses over there at times do bleed and they are put on a vets list and given time off, then hopefully when they race again they do not bleed. But I think they are only given 3 chances and if they bleed 3 times they are banned from racing there. So they have 2 options retire, or send to USA to race on Lasix. From what I have read our Lasix use is partly why European breeders do not breed to US Studs.

I agree with your second paragraph totally.

 

twigs6652

From: twigs6652

8/13/11

Thanks for your answer.  It was very good and understandable!

Do the horses bleed from their lungs?   If so, is that why the European training methods are different - to give their lungs a better chance of developing and/or being stronger?

Lauren

Amy (1pony)
Staff

From: Amy (1pony)

8/13/11

Thanks Lauren, I have some experience with race horses, but most of my horse knowlege is with show horses.

 

twigs6652

From: twigs6652

8/17/11

You may already know about this site but I found it very interesting...

I found a link to the British Horseracing Authority site on the RIPDeputyBroad facebook page (which is also very good!)  The facebook page highlighted retraining of a racehorse but as I was reading through the site, I found this section about Medication and Doping Control FAQ's.

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resources/equine-science-and-welfare/medication-and-doping-faqs.asp#33

I believe I read on there somewhere that pretty much all that is allowed is water and food in a bucket!

Lauren

In reply toRe: msg 11
Amy (1pony)
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From: Amy (1pony)

8/17/11

Lasix remains a hot-button issue in racing

Since early June, I’ve spent about a dozen hours sitting in rooms listening to people talk about Lasix. Two days after the Belmont, the NTRA held a full-day “summit” on race day medication, specifically Lasix; the Association of Racing Commissioners International devoted three hours of its recent meeting to the topic; and both the Albany Law School Racing and Gaming Institute and the Jockey Club Round Table included commentary on the use of raceday furosemide.

http://www.saratogian.com/articles/2011/08/16/sports/doc4e4b12d6a12e6140938561.txt?viewmode=fullstory



 

twigs6652

From: twigs6652

8/17/11

OK.  That is spooky that we were posting something at the same time!
MichiganFOB1

From: MichiganFOB1

8/18/11

Please listen to Bob Baffert on Talkin Horses, August 16.  He talks about the dangers of the ban, especially on young horses, and the effect on the small time trainers.  It was very interesting.  I think the ban should be on pain killers that mask pain and the joint injections, and the steroids.
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