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Started 11/24/12 by Derby132; 404001 views.
Derby132

From: Derby132

12/5/12

Good point!!!!
KentuckyTB

From: KentuckyTB

12/7/12

Bullet Train, Frankel's brother coming to KY to stand at stud.  I feel bad for this horse.  I think he could have been in the winners circle many more times had he not been delegated to be a rabbit for Frankel.  I think he will be a nice addition to the stallions here in the US :

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/74912/frankels-brother-bullet-train-to-wintergreen

KentuckyTB

From: KentuckyTB

12/7/12

Oh, was it here that we were discussing Overdriven?  Repole is such a knucklehead... this horse does NOT have the qualities to be standing at stud.  Should have been gelded...  I don't know what makes this VERY UNSOUND horse worthy of being a stallion???  He hasn't beat ANYTHING worthwhile and is not sound.  Repole wants him to add to the gene pool WHY???

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/74920/overdriven-retired-to-stand-at-ocala-stud
mimi6920

From: mimi6920

12/7/12

I want sound horses to stand at stud, but sometimes unsound stallions can be marvelous stallions. For example, Tapit was not especially sound, and Malibu Moon only raced twice. Danzig raced three times. What a loss for the breed if he hadn't become a stallion. So sometimes you have to let the market decide.

On that note, Tale of the Cat has produced some lovely sound horses, so maybe Overdriven, who wasn't sound, will impart the magic of his sire in mares. You just never know. 

KentuckyTB

From: KentuckyTB

12/7/12

The market is saturated with stallions though - and lots of stallions that should be geldings.  There are 12 other sons of Tale of the Cat standing in the US and Tale of the Cat himself still stands.  Ranging from $500 to $20,000 stud fees. 

Danzig ran 3 times but also won 3 times.
Malibu Moon is not the typical example - he had great breeding and got good mares from the get go (Overdriven will not get the kinds of mares Malibu Moon got his first few years at stud)
Tapit at least ran 6 times including 2 X at 2.  He won the Wood Memorial and when he went to stud, he was 1 of only 7 sons of Pulpit at stud worldwide.  He technically retired sound.

That said, maybe Overdriven will surprise me... but I doubt it.  He was injured as a 2 yr old and sat out, came back for 1 race and was injured again only to be retired.  Not the epitome of soundness (meaning, is there unsoundness on the dam's side?  She ran 11 times but stopped mid year as a 3 yr old)  Yes, sh*t happens and horses get injured - but the fact that he ran twice, was injured, ran once, was injured again does not scream "sound" to me.
Derby132

From: Derby132

12/7/12

Hooh Why will retire soon and breeding plans have been announced.  Two more races....

Gulfstream Park notes: Hooh Why makes one of her last stops

http://www.drf.com/news/gulfstream-park-notes-hooh-why-makes-one-her-last-stops

Derby132

From: Derby132

12/7/12

You know being used as a rabbit has to do something to a horse's psyche and you wonder what he might have done if raced elsewhere.

It's going to be really interesting to follow how his runners do here.  I knew there was interest to have him come over here but I really didn't think it would happen. 

Derby132

From: Derby132

12/7/12

He was sidelined for most of his short career.  I don't like seeing horses retired at the end of their 3yo year.  Let them prove themselves at four and five and then see if they are worthy to contribute to the breed or if they need a new career.  Some horses you maybe can justify it (early to stud) if they are outstanding and there are other circumstances that might justify it but not a horse with a short resume like this.
KYsally (kwsally)

From: KYsally (kwsally)

12/7/12

OMG she is gonna be 7 - I didn't know she was that age - hope she wins and retires sound - GO HOOH WHY!!!!!

XXOO
KentuckyTB

From: KentuckyTB

12/7/12

Exactly.  I think he would have been a very good racehorse if given the right chances.
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