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Low-Cost home for my mare, NE Penna   Horse Rescue Issues

Started by Guest; 1644 views.
In reply toRe: msg 21
Ponytale1976

From: Ponytale1976

1/2/08

I wasn't answering on purpose because I felt that I already did, thats not what this thread was about. I now feel like I am repeating myself and will not say anything more on this subject ont the board out of respect for the person whose thread this is. I am a vet tech by trade, I did not say that I was a CVT, LVT or RVT (Certified, Licensed or Registered Vet Tech) because YES for those you need a degree in MOST but not all states, but you must pass the national veterinary technician test, which in most states you can not take without first having a degree. But I indeed have worked under the title of Veterinary Technician for more then 10 years for large and small animal vets and the United States Equestrian Federation, that is a fact. In regards to Equine Nutrition, also by trade. I have an Equine Nutritional Consulting Business with MANY very happy clients. Was I enrolled at Cornell University? No. Did I study their curriculum, listen to their lectures, read their notes, and do everything that their students did? Yes. Does that make me an expert or earn me a degree? Most certainly not.
Msg 23 of 59 to GuestGuest 
In reply toRe: msg 1
Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

Hi Anne,

We are in NE Ohio, not PA....but we do have a TB training, lay-up, and breeding farm.  We currently have one retiree living with us, but we have a number of horses that are only pasture sound.  They are outdoors as much as the weather will allow and for this type of board we charge $200 a month.  I can provide many references if you are interested, although I imagine you would like to keep your girl close by. 

Best of luck!

Amanda, Kingstonion Farm

Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

Amen to that Jamie. What a class act you are.

 

edited because today apparently isn't a spelling day for me.

  • Edited 1/2/2008 7:06 pm ET by Kpatrick
Msg 25 of 59 to GuestGuest 
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jamielsg

From: jamielsg

1/2/08

Hello QHRider! Thank you for your kind words.  I'm not angry with drbva and I firmly believe she is entitled to her opinion.  That being said, I am extremely tired, like you of people who judge, ridicule and seemingly go out of their way to stir up the fires of controversy.  We owe a great debt to the many men and women who run horse rescues.  Where would the thousands of horses rescued be without the Lauries and the Stephanys and the Jens of horse rescue?  I never recall any representative from the rescues on this forum boasting perfection or claiming to have all the answers.  This is a team effort, plain and simple.  We need each other.  Together, we have accomplished many great things and we will continue to do so, with or without the naysayers.    This effort is for and because of ~ the horses.  Because of Barbaro. 

Jamie Gillispie ~ Fan of Barbaro, Johnson City, TN

For the love of Bill and Barbaro.............for Eternity

Msg 26 of 59 to GuestGuest 
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jamielsg

From: jamielsg

1/2/08

Thank you Kpatrick for your humbling words.  I really appreciate them! Jamie
Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

First, let me say that I WAS addressing the subject of the thread because Laurie stated that among her qualifications are that she is a vet tech and equine nutritionist. Second, I was questioning only Laurie's representing herself as a vet tech and equine nutritionist in a state where it is ILLEGAL to call yourself a vet tech unless you are LICENSED. Perhaps you all missed that part of the post. Calling oneself a vet tech whether by trade or anything else, is misleading and, in some states (like the one in which Laurie now lives), illegal. Period.

Glad to hear that you have many happy clients in your nutritional consulting business. Again, it is about semantics and one cannot call oneself something they are not. For example, I have worked in the Thoroughbred industry for 15 years both on and off the racetrack. I've worked with some of the top equine lameness and repro vets in the country. Can I call myself an "Equine Repro Specialist?" No. I'm an Equine Therapist. I went to human massage school for a year - took an 800 hour program in NYC, and then over 220 hours of training in various equine therapies AND worked with both vets specializing in lameness and rehab,and an Equine Therapist who had been in practice for 17 years (with a PhD Physical Training.) I can NOT call myself a physical therapist. Semantics.

Regarding rescuing horses, I have worked in horse rescue and the anti-slaughter movement for 9 years. I have done this almost full-time for the past two, as a volunteer. I've been on the national board of directors of the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation and was chair of their Horse Intake Committee. I still volunteer for numerous horse rescue groups. I have a field of rescue horses that I have taken on, including two nurse mare foals. I have taken full financial responsibility for these horses. In addition, I have contributed to the rescue of scores of horses from kill pens, race tracks and various abusive situations around the country and I sponsor horses at rescues. I am NOT a wealthy farm owner. My husband manages a farm. We work damned hard to support our family (we have a young child too), our horses and stay true to our belief that no horse should be slaughtered, neglected or abused and that every horse that is rescued should really be going to a better place than the one he left - someplace safe where he is protected by a CONTRACT for the rest of his life.

I also believe that it is time for people on this forum to be HONEST about what and who they are. I really think that if Laurie, or anyone else, came on here and said that they love horses, can help a few but aren't experts, they'd be accepted with open arms. But this self aggrandizing BS needs to stop. Enough already. It is frustrating, infuriating, and a waste of time. There has been so much written on this forum about the CBERs and their lack of accountability, yet its okay for others to misrepresent themselves? Sorry, not in my book. This forum has started something so important for our beloved horses. We all need to ensure that this mission is carried out with honesty and integrity. If we can't ask these hard questions of each other, than what does that say about the FOBs as a group?

Finally, there are so many rescues that are already in place that would gladly take on more horses if they had the funding. But the people here seem to want to give their hard earned money to people they don't know and who really have no credentials. Nitpicking, I don't think so... don't get me started.

So I've said my peace now. And to those of you who support Laurie, I want you to know that I've gotten quite a few emails from people thanking me for posting here.

Diana Baker

In reply toRe: msg 27
Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

I meant to reply to all in my previous post. Sorry bout that...
Msg 29 of 59 to GuestGuest 
In reply toRe: msg 28
Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

Well good heavens, you certainly have a long list of personal accomplishments, don't you.  Your use name alone screams "LOOK AT ME".

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why are you entitled to be so rude?

Laurie's original post, which you quoted but left out part that did not support your case, was "I am a vet tech and equine nutritionist BY TRADE."  By trade....as in, due to experience.  Also, she stated "I studied Cornell's curriculum."  She did not say she studied at Cornell, she said she studied their curriculum.  Why is that misleading?

All this pettiness is tiresome.

As I told Laurie....I don't care if you can spout off the correct anatomical names of every bone, ligament, and muscle in my horses' body.  I do care if you can run your hands down his legs and feel fluid in a tendon sheath, if you can walk by my horses' stall and know he is not right in a flash, and if you can catch a horse trying to colic before they show any classic symptoms.  If you can do that, I don't care WHERE you learned it.

You say that rescues could do more with additional funding.  I think everyone agrees on that.  But the truth is that there simply are not enough people who are willing to step up and say "I will help...I will take a horse without any expectations of what they should do, I will make a difference, not a world of difference, but all the difference in the world to ONE horse".  And those people do not have to be tax exempt, they do not have to have degrees.  I am not saying that rescue should be attempted by any horse lover....it is a heartbreaking, bankbreaking endeavor and should only be taken on by those truly knowledgable.  But that knowledge comes in many forms, and hands-on experience cannot be duplicated by any book, course, or class.  Period.

Laurie is making a difference in this world, one horse at a time.  She, at the end of the day, regardless of education or license, can rest easy knowing she is a success.

  • Edited 1/2/2008 9:27 pm ET by greycliffe
Msg 30 of 59 to GuestGuest 
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Guest

From: Guest

1/2/08

Look at me? Interesting.

Telling the truth should be a prerequisite in any undertaking. You can say what you'd like, it was misleading information. I think we've more than covered this now. Don't you? I'm done here.

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