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Support Eight Belles' connections   Horse Racing

Started by Russo (Railbird87); 8527 views.
Guest

From: Guest

5/5/08

Gabriel Saez is the jockey.  PETA is saying that 8 Belles was injured during the race and he choose not to stop her.  It's total nonsense.   All they have to do is watch the tape of the race.  she was strong and sure at the finish.

 

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Guest

From: Guest

5/5/08

I am with you, if this is swept uner the rug as just an accident then the Tb industry wil continue the bloodbath of young horses lives for the " Sport". the industry needs to promote some responsiblity for what they do to these animals in the name of the almighty dollar. this Filly was " pushed " to the breaking pont.
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EileneWood

From: EileneWood

5/5/08

That's what I heard.  I do not watch a live race. I always wait and watch the replays.  I was so happy the day was going along without any accidents.  When I turned the TV back on, I was happy for BB and then they said Eight Belles was down.
jock4hire

From: jock4hire

5/5/08

Dear Railbird,

I'm going to second the sentiments left by Karen, respectfully to your opinions  of course.  Believing that she is absolutely correct in her views. As I believe now that these connections are what killed this beautiful filly. It was ego and it's just that simple I think!  Why else run her in the biggest and most prestigious race in the world?  

The Paul Moran article is fabulous and he predicted this would in fact happen to this great filly!! Thanks Karen for posting it!! It helps to put this tragedy into better perspective. I'd urge you to read the article Railbird!!

jock4hire

From: jock4hire

5/5/08

Hi Eilene,

Karen posted an article ths morning on the main board by Paul Moran. Please go read it here!! It'll lend new light to your views as it has mine and many others I'm certain. Here is that article. Eight Belles Deserves Better This author makes some eye opening remarks that well they make better sense than anyone I've listened to thus far!

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Russo (Railbird87)

From: Russo (Railbird87)

5/5/08

Hey there,

I completely respect your view. And if she had broken down DURING THE RACE, I would say you were spot on. But I'd like to respectfully disagree with you that the owners running her in the race killed her, for the very reason that it happened during the gallop out.

If Rick Porter had just sent Eight Belles straight to the Derby without any sort of consideration, well, then I might blame it on ego. But they debated this decision for weeks. They made a point of cross-entering her because if her post didn't set her up for success, they didn't want to push her. They considered every possible angle and whether she came into the race right.

She had already beaten up on her own division time and again. The next logical step for her was to step outside of her division and take on a bigger challenge--just as Rags did in the Belmont last year. If she had finished 10th in the Derby, I might say the owners just ran her because of ego and that she didn't belong there.

But her finish proved she belonged, and that they'd spotted her well.

She was moving at a slow gallop when the accident occured. It's not something that the stress of racing caused. That's something that could have happened in the paddock, or during a morning gallop. Hell, even galloping out after a race against fillies! People are so quick to point fingers at people for racing fillies against colts when they break down, but forget that they break down racing against their own gender (Go For Wand, Pine Island, Gallant Secret) too.

I'm a lifelong racing fan and I hope to work in the industry once I'm done with college. I don't push accidents under the rug--I think Eight Belles' death, along with Pine Island's two years ago and Chelokee's breakdown, is just more proof that Churchill needs a synthetic surface. I think Barbaro's accident should be remembered because of all the good he did for laminitis research. There is a difference between sweeping an accident under the rug....and understanding that there's nowhere to place blame for the accident.

Loving racing isn't about sweeping accidents under the rug. It's about celebrating the highs, being devastated by the lows, but not walking away because of the lows....just working to eliminate them.

I'm not afraid to lambast the connections of a horse when I think they're to blame for an accident--I absolutely ripped George's connections after the BC. But I don't believe this is one of those cases.

I sincerely hope everyone on this board understands this point of view.

 

 

Guest

From: Guest

5/5/08

I will not mence words with you nor will I go into my experience and knowledge to qualify the way I think and feel.

You did not change my mind and you have a lot to learn.

Karen Macmanus - Dallas, Texas

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Guest

From: Guest

5/5/08

Just out of curiosity, is your view strictly because this was a filly?  In all honesty, isn't ego involved in every derby entry? 
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Russo (Railbird87)

From: Russo (Railbird87)

5/5/08

How long have you been following racing?

 

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Guest

From: Guest

5/5/08

[soap box speech]

Without mincing my words - although I feel sorry for many of her connections, I feel none for Rick Porter. He is one of the worst thoroughbred owners - having had a bit of success he thinks he knows it all, and is in love far too much with himself and the media.

I said weeks ago that this filly did not belong in this race - it happened because she had not prepped against the boys. The example I use, is like the best high school football player, going to the Super Bowl. He could well be good enough to be there, however he would never have taken so many hard hits, he would not be playing above his physiological limits. Going into that race something was going to break, either her legs or her heart -

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