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Frankel!!!!!   Retired TBs -Past and Present

Started by hornsix1; 67006 views.
KYsally (kwsally)

From: KYsally (kwsally)

4/30/11

Its too darn bad he isn't here and running in the derby!

XXOO

Derby132

From: Derby132

4/30/11

Maybe the BC?  Frankel & Goldikova - wouldn't that be something!

KYsally (kwsally)

From: KYsally (kwsally)

4/30/11

Not in the same race - they need their own race to own!

XXOO

Otherlyn

From: Otherlyn

5/1/11


I saw the race today. What a THRILL with every stride! He opened up, and never looked back.

Is it just me, or does he look like BARBARO in the photo?

Your FOB Fren, O

  • Edited 5/1/2011 3:31 am ET by Otherlyn
hornsix1

From: hornsix1

5/1/11

OK- thanks- I thought that it must a European Derby they were talking about.
Yes- wd be cool to see Frankel and Goldy and Black Caviar as well all come here for the BC!
cigarello

From: cigarello

5/1/11

He's a wonder horse and carries the blood of the great Northern Dancer and Sadlers Wells.
Derby132

From: Derby132

5/1/11

Yes, was thinking of Sadler Wells watching Frankel race yesterday.
Derby132

From: Derby132

5/1/11

An interesting read.  One bloggers opinion on the Epsom Derby for Frankel.

Frankel dishes the dirt

>>If Frankel is buried at the back of the pack at Epsom, he would resent it; he would pull hard and may ruin his chance. 


But, if he is allowed to race close to the pace and his speed just a little more rationed, he may settle sufficiently well.
lizinuk

From: lizinuk

5/2/11

Yes, interesting. I was watching the Channel 4 coverage and one of their experts did sound a note of caution after the race. I still have it recorded as I wasn't quite sure at the time what exactly he was getting at. I shall have to revisit it and listen carefully.

The Derby is a thorny problem every year as Epsom is a very difficult course to negotiate. There always seems to be a will he, won't he debate over whether the the apparently most exciting 3-year old is going to run.....New Approach and Sea The Stars for instance. They both won. The perceived wisdom is that if there are any stamina doubts a horse needs to be covered up, and you can't normally win by leading all the way, although Steve Cauthen did that so brilliantly in 1985 on Slip Anchor in 1985. At least by being at the front you are out of trouble (and there is usually plenty in running). New Approach pulled and pulled in the race, but despite stamina doubts had enough in reserve to burst through and win. I don't know what tactics they would employ on Frankel if he were to run.

And I don't think this is going to be entirely about Frankel anyway as there is World Domination to add to the equation. He has the same owner and trainer as Frankel and although he has only ever run once, looks a potential Derby winner. He is going for the Dante Stakes (a Derby trial) and I think we may know more of what they will do with Frankel after that race. Henry Cecil says he isn't going to run Frankel in the Dante and it now looks to be a 50/50 choice between giving the mile and half trip of the Derby in early June a go, or opting for the slightly shorter distance of a mile and a quarter in the St James's Palace Stakes at Royal Ascot. The latter would probably mean sticking to the mile, mile and a quarter trips for the season. No Arc de Triomphe.

The jury is still out on what is the best course of action.  

  • Edited 5/2/2011 4:29 am ET by lizinuk
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