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The "word of god"? Not the bible.

Started Mar-14 by HWPeeler (HPeeler); 188 views.
HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-14

What is the word of god? (Assuming there is a god that creates the universe.)

If this god created the universe then god created the sciences we find. Physics, chemistry, biology ...  such is the way the universe works. The representatives of god are those in science, not those who are contrary to science.

People wrote the bible. The bible is the book of men, not god.

If god is behind DNA then is god behind evolution?

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HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-14

Is there anything scientific about Christianity?

It is based on some kind of magical belief that sickness can be healed by some mental power of belief. That doesn't sound very scientific to me.

Certainly our thoughts and beliefs can influence our health to some small degree, but healing leprosy by laying on of hands, I think not. Raising the dead? No. This may have been suitable thinking for man 2,000 years ago before the sciences, but not today.

albatler

From: albatler

Mar-18

evolution does not exist...It is a concept..

dna  does not replicate w/o errors... those that enhancer reproduction ,end up dominating

the environment, till some other mistake comes along and does a better match..

each species(another concept) has a range of dna,which allows some of that species to

occupy slightly diff niches than their neighbors. Building depth into survival possibilities..

bears(eg) can be found in the tropics  and  the arctic circle,in swamps ,on mountain tops..

and your back yard..

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-18

Re: DNA

Those variations in species you admit exist, consider changes over 100,000 years. What might man have looked like 100,000 or 1,000,000 years ago. This SUGGESTS (does not prove) evolution.

Re: evolution

Agreed there is no completed string of examples of mankind. We would have to dig up the world to find all examples. Yes, evolution is a concept ... supported by scattered examples. Enough to suggest the concept but not prove it absolutely in all opinions.

If knowledge and wisdom is what makes man different from other animals why do you prefer faith instead of science?

albatler

From: albatler

Mar-18

evolution is written /spoken about as if it were a positive accomplishment..even in science articles..

ie...." animals/ plants evolve to fit their environment"..

not true... a/p evolve willy/nilly... those that fit the environment  survive longer..

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-18

albatler said:

evolution is written /spoken about as if it were a positive accomplishment..even in science articles..

Yes, it is misrepresented by those who wear their science as though it were a religion. The error is the same as the religiously faithful make. The error is human, not "science" or "religion".

Man did not evolve from a monkey. What is suggested is that mankind and modern monkeys had a common ancestor. We have difficulty getting specific on this. We just don't have DNA that supports this. Without this evolution is an unproven theory. Supported? Kind of. The contrast is with the biblical account of the age of mankind. If we can not take the bible literally on this can we accept anything in the bible as credible?

The bible is either the word of God and truth or it is the word of men and myth. If we find parts of it to be false the word of God is eliminated.

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-21

But what you describe is evolution, isn't it. The assumption that man and monkey evolved from some common ancestor is difficult to justify in my opinion. Is that the part of evolution you disagree with? The idea that mankind has changed over the years is a credible argument even if the traces are incomplete. Where did man separate from monkey? Somebody show me proof, please. Where else could man have come from? Good question.

albatler

From: albatler

Mar-22

I disagree with the use of the word "evolution" as a positive action word..

as in :... animals/plants evolve to fit their environment..

at best ,it is a short cut term...  leaving out the reality of mutations of which

all are random. Caused by chemical poisoning/radiation disruption/replication errors  ..

HWPeeler (HPeeler)

From: HWPeeler (HPeeler)

Mar-22

Evolution is not mutation? Mutations are random. Those mutations that help the creature survive pass on the mutation to the next generation.  This is evolution, isn't it?

 The big question to me is whether or not mankind and monkeys, apes, etc have a common ancestor somewhere back in history. Otherwise where did mankind come from? Where do all species come from if they did not evolve from some previous species?

Did all dogs evolve from one species of dog somewhere back in history? All birds from some ancient two-legged dinosaur? All cats from some sabertooth tiger? Have we found bones from any other previous cat?

Yes, what we find is only scattered pieces of the puzzle, but we do find the scattered examples, right? We would have to dig up the whole world to find a more complete picture. We have enough information to make an educated guess, but not much more.

I would say evolution is an educated guess.

Bike (URALTOURIST1)

From: Bike (URALTOURIST1)

Mar-25

And Creationism is a statement of Faith.

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