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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostJan-9 1:01 PM 
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http://time.com/5497260/donald-trump-border-wall-fact-check/

Here Are the Facts Behind President Trump's Border Claims

President Donald Trump used his first primetime address from the White House to call for Democrats to support spending billions to build a wall on the border with Mexico.

With the partial government shutdown now the second-longest in U.S. history, Trump took the unusual step of speaking directly to Americans from the Oval Office Tuesday to press his case. Later in the week, he’ll visit McAllen, Texas as well.

Democratic leaders offered their rebuttal shortly after Trump’s speech.

In recent weeks, Trump and other administration officials have made a number of claims about border crossings and the need for a wall.

Here are the facts behind several of those claims.

Claim: Illegal immigration causes violent crime

“Day after day, precious lives are cut short by those who have violated our borders,” Trump said during his address, noting crimes involving immigrants in recent years. He has repeated this particular claim since he first announced his candidacy in 2015.

Some Americans have allegedly been assaulted, raped and murdered by immigrants who are in the country illegally — including a 33-year-old police officer killed the day after Christmas and a 64-year-old Air Force contractor who was bludgeoned to death with a hammer, as highlighted by Trump. However, studies have shown that immigrants commit crimes less frequently than their American-born counterparts.............................

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From: MerianaJan-9 8:18 PM 
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 One thing everyone seems to be ignoring is the fact that approximately 1000 miles of the border happens to be a body of water...aka the Rio Grande river. Found some interesting articles about it.  https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-wall-rio-grande-2017-story.html

https://www.ibwc.gov/CRP/riogrande.htm                                                                                                                                                                                        https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/americas/us-mexico-border-rio-grande-crossing-controls-agency-illegal-immigrants-undocumented-workers-wall-a7626901.html

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/10/19/concrete-divisions-us-mexico-border/                      

 

 

 

 

 

 
From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostJan-10 6:46 AM 
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Yeah, all they need are boats.  The bottom line is that immigrants crossing the border from Mexico are not the threat that Trump is telling us they are.

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From: Owen (Cymbyz) DelphiPlus Member IconJan-14 6:45 AM 
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Another fact is:  Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.  It's habitual with him.

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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostJan-14 7:05 AM 
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Owen (Cymbyz) said...

Another fact is:  Trump lies every time he opens his mouth.  It's habitual with him.

You're right - he doesn't seem to feel any obligation to base his comments on truth.  He will say anything to support whatever lie he is peddling at the moment.

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From: The CrAzEy LeMmInG; HEHE (ROBERTJVAN) DelphiPlus Member IconJan-16 12:25 PM 
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I have a question as to what good would the wall really do, would they not just fly in after all the drug cartels already use planes to ship in drugs why not people too.

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From: B-17 Girl (Collinwood11) DelphiPlus Member IconJan-16 1:08 PM 
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No, they just dig UNDER the fucking wall like they already do in spots!  Just ask El Chapo.

 

 

 

 

 

 
From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostJan-16 1:21 PM 
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The CrAzEy LeMmInG; V-day is coming! (ROBERTJVAN) said...

I have a question as to what good would the wall really do, would they not just fly in after all the drug cartels already use planes to ship in drugs why not people too.

That's exactly the point.  It is painfully obvious that Trump is demonizing Mexican immigrants to unite his groupies behind him and they are falling for it hook line and sinker.

There are boats, planes, tunnels and drones that will make a $5B wall useless.  Geez, for $5Billion, we could educate almost all of the Trumpers.

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Would be True!
 

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From: MerianaJan-26 12:12 PM 
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All they really need to do is what many, many, many, already do: ask for asylum, then ignore any court date given, and just live here, or come on a visa and forget to go home. We make it far, far to easy for them to stay, to ignore a court date regarding an asylum request, and we make excuses as to why they do all this, which so often leads to activists claiming we need to reform our immigration laws, and make it easier, less expensive, etc. and far, far to many get all caught up in the emotional aspects of it all.

 

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