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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostNov-29 8:57 AM 
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https://bigthink.com/technology-innovation/protein-from-air

NASA's idea for making food from thin air just became a reality — it could feed billions

 

Here's why you might eat greenhouse gases in the future.

 

It's not like you can make food out of thin air. Well…it turns out you can. A company from Finland, Solar Foods, is planning to bring to market a new protein powder, Solein, made out of CO2, water and electricity. It's a high-protein, flour-like ingredient that contains 50 percent protein content, 5–10 percent fat, and 20–25 percent carbs. It reportedly looks and tastes like wheat flour, and could become an ingredient in a wide variety of food products after its initial launch in 2021.

It's likely to first appear on grocery shelves in protein shakes and yogurt. It could be an exciting development: Solein's manufacturing process is carbon neutral and the potential for scalability seems unlimited — we've got too much CO2, if anything. Why not get rid of some greenhouse gas with a side of fries?

Seriously sustainable

Solar Foods makes Solein by extracting CO2 from air using carbon-capture technology, and then combines it with water, nutrients and vitamins, using 100 percent renewable solar energy from partner Fortum to promote a natural fermentation process similar to the one that produces yeast and lactic acid bacteria.

When the company claims its single-celled protein is "free from agricultural limitations," they're not kidding. Being produced indoors means Solar Foods is not dependent on arable land, water (i.e., rain), or favorable weather.

The company is already working with the European Space Agency to develop foods for off-planet production and consumption. (The idea for Solein actually began at NASA.) They also see potential in bringing protein production to areas whose climate or ground conditions make conventional agriculture impossible.

 

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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostNov-29 8:57 AM 
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Making food from waste gases - that's a HUGE win-win.

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From: Marypickford DelphiPlus Member IconNov-29 7:19 PM 
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Its an even bigger win for a mars bound vessel or a mars colony. There is a lot of Co2 on mars.

What is Mars' atmosphere made of?

 

The atmosphere of Mars is about 100 times thinner than Earth's, and it is 95 percent carbon dioxide. Here's a breakdown of its composition, according to a NASA fact sheet:

  • Carbon dioxide: 95.32 percent
  • Nitrogen: 2.7 percent
  • Argon: 1.6 percent
  • Oxygen: 0.13 percent
  • Carbon monoxide: 0.08 percent
  • Also, minor amounts of: water, nitrogen oxide, neon, hydrogen-deuterium-oxygen, krypton and xenon

https://www.space.com/16903-mars-atmosphere-climate-weather.html

 

If we can process C02 into food, it means that there will be less need for a co2 absoption sysem. If O is exhaled as part of the process, it can recycle the air completely!

 

 
From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostNov-30 8:41 AM 
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I'm still waiting to see if there is a "catch" to all of this because it almost seems to good to be true.

Anyway, it reminds me of an old Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man" where an alien civilization visited Earth and to calm people's fears, they shared technoloigy that would allow us to farm more efficiently among other things, all described in a book given to Earthlings.  Once people felt comfortable about their good intentions, the aliens started organizing trips to their home planet and they could fill rockets fast enough for the trip until the good guys in the story found out that the aliens were shipping humans to their planet to be used as a food source. "To Serve Man" didn't mean to do good things for them, it means serving them on a platter as a main course.

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From: YWN666 DelphiPlus Member Icon Posted by hostNov-30 8:45 AM 
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The alien is Richard Kiel who you might recognize as a James Bond villain.

 

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From: Marypickford DelphiPlus Member IconNov-30 1:22 PM 
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I remember that series. 

The aliens did help humans, true, but not from the book.

The book was found unbeknownst to the aliens, and finally translated-

To Serve Man was a cookbook. The aliens were farming humans. Now for the tragic part the story implied. How could humans possibly stop them from actually conquering the planet- given their superior technology?

 

 
From: Marypickford DelphiPlus Member IconNov-30 1:23 PM 
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They never gave production costs, or how they mined the Co2. Thats got to be one huge catch.

 

 
From: BlueMoon67 DelphiPlus Member IconNov-30 4:32 PM 
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I was thinking that the catch is that it is still years off from being a viable option. These things take time. 

 

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