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New build concentration camps   Africa and the Middle East

Started 10/20/19 by BerrySteph; 4443 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

bml00 said:

the Bedouin own nothing they go where they want , crap where they want , leave garbage where they want and then move on.

How do you feel about your Forum being used to parade racist disdain towards the victims of Israel's faith-discriminating violence and theft?

adwil

From: adwil

10/27/19

BerrySteph said:

Your information (all of it as best I can see) refers to property taken by the communists without regard to faith. Nothing to do with the Nazis or the Holocaust.

Read the sources. They make it clear that they include WW2 and the Holocaust as well as later communist expropriations.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

It's just another opportunity to 'bash' Israel. He ignores the fact that property laws exist in the UK and unless the alleged owner applies for Squatters' rights and goes through a long drawn out process (12 year +), property rights without previous title are not possible.

You're just an evil person. We know that the area around Beersheba was cultivated in 1948 because it shows on aerial photographs.

All the best land was stolen and the people forced onto more and more unproductive land until they were destitute.

They're now being put in concentration camps while their lands are again seized by your faith-hating and racist friends.

Why do you preach such evil?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

It should be simply a matter of law. The Bedouin own the property or they don't. They have rights guaranteeing their property under Israeli law or they don't. 

You know the score - you know they're actual Israeli citizens and they still have no rights.

Why do you condone such evil?

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defence/105824-160311-senior-israeli-army-officer-served-with-home-demolition-order
"Demolition orders are issued against buildings and not against individuals whose identity is unknown," the response continued.

The Bedouin community of Abu Nuwar in the West Bank, near Jerusalem, February 23, 2016 AHMAD GHARABLI (AFP)

Senior Israeli army officer served with home demolition order

The incident has created a storm of controversy among Bedouin soldiers and commanders serving in the IDF

03/11/2016 - An Israeli army major will have to demolish his home in two months' time, after being served with a demolition order from the Israeli government due to the house having been built without a permit, Walla reports.

Major Habas al-Atrash, who heads up the Bedouin Trackers Unit in the IDF's Southern Command, found the order pasted on the door to his house, in the Negev, about a month ago. The demolition would leave his family without a roof over their heads.

Al-Atrash's lawyer appealed to the Beer Sheva District court for an order to temporarily delay the demolition order, according to Walla.

At the same time, around two weeks ago, a compromise was reached with the Southern District Planning and Building Committee, wherein al-Atrash would have to demolish his own home so that he will not have to pay for the Israeli authorities to do so.

Col. Nahmani (reserves), who is a lawyer, also submitted an urgent request to Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon to prevent the demolition.

If the IDF officer does not demolish his home by the deadline, the Israel Lands Administration will carry out the demolition, for which al-Atrash will bear the cost.

The incident has created a storm of controversy among Bedouin soldiers and commanders serving in the IDF, Walla says.

"The roles and tasks performed by Bedouin soldiers are incredibly important… And now these brave soldiers who sacrifice their lives for the state and the security of its citizens are having their lives made intolerable by the same state, which is demolishing their homes," Nahmani said.

According to the lawyer, the judges' hands are tied by the law and this case requires the intervention of the relevant authorities at the Ministry of Defense, Walla reports.

Nahmani is representing another Bedouin soldier who has found himself in the same situation as al-Atrash. The second soldier was also served with a demolition order after being accused of having built his home illegally, Walla says. His home is expected to be demolished by the state in the near future.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

Read the sources. They make it clear that they include WW2 and the Holocaust as well as later communist expropriations.

Why would Jews have more rights than other Polish people for property nationalised by the communists?

You really are in the business of inciting hatred and jealousy of Jews.

adwil

From: adwil

10/27/19

BerrySteph said:

We know that the area around Beersheba was cultivated in 1948 because it shows on aerial photographs.

if you read the history of the area, you will learn that the nomadic Bedouin periodically drove the local Palestinians off their land, settled in their tents and used their crops as fodder for their animals. Then they left and the locals moved back.

Perhaps you would post a link to your aerial photo. I've looked at all that are available and whilst there are some that show the town I can't see any showing farming. 

adwil

From: adwil

10/27/19

BerrySteph said:

Why would Jews have more rights than other Polish people for property nationalised by the communists?

Not what I said and not what you queried. You asked about the Nazi period.

See the title of this source.

https://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/roadblocks-to-jewish-restitution-polands-unsettled-property/

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

if you read the history of the area, you will learn that the nomadic Bedouin periodically drove the local Palestinians off their land, settled in their tents and used their crops as fodder for their animals. Then they left and the locals moved back.

How do you have the nerve to post such racist filth?

Jews did not move to Palestine in large numbers because it was racked by criminality and violence and antisemitism.

They moved there because Palestine was a place of tolerance and peace!

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

You asked about the Nazi period.

Correct.

So why are you pointing me to anti-Polish racism, whereby Jews have special rights to property nationalised by the communists?

Are there no limits to your efforts to incite hatred of Jews?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

10/27/19

adwil said:

if you read the history of the area, you will learn that the nomadic Bedouin periodically drove the local Palestinians off their land, settled in their tents and used their crops as fodder for their animals. Then they left and the locals moved back.

Do you believe the racist filth that Adwil posts into your Forum?

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