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Pull out a map of Israel if you dare   Africa and the Middle East

Started 11/5/19 by BerrySteph; 9655 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

11/12/19

Hello 6686L!

Welcome!  Welcome! Welcome! 

Is it 6686 Litres of something?


Excellent points.

I wonder if our family can get the land back that was taken from us during the Industrial Revolution?

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bml00

From: bml00

11/12/19

Jordan invaded Palestine for its own strategic reasons none of them to do with a benevolent need to divide the waring factions , it lost the territory because it twice decided to go to war against Israel and in each case the Israelis asked the Jordanians to keep out of the war for their own ulterior motives the King decided to enter the affray and got nigh on annihilated for his efforts .

You go to war to win , if you lose there is and will always be a price to pay ,you are being disengenuous with your description of why Jordan became involved , it saw itself for a small moment in time creating a mini empire with the Hashemite Kings at its head https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordanian_annexation_of_the_West_Bank

Look at Jordan today a failing state , crumbling at the edges inept leadership , inept Kingship and greed have created a downward spiral leading to what will become chaos in the near future

BM

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

11/12/19

6686L said:

Should Jordan get back Palestine?  Should I get back my family's ancient estates in what was Prussia?

Your loss is real but it happened before 1945, which is the date when "Right of Conquest" was finally abolished. Every nation on earth very keen to sign up to it, accept other people's borders and legitimise their own.

Progress was also made towards "Universal Human Rights" - attacking other people's civilians  and their property had always been an offence - in 1945 doing it to your own civilians became a war-crime.

That's the system that Israel begged to join, legitimise their own borders to the partition resolution they'd originally asked for (UNGA 181) and comply with UNGA 192 as had also been passed.

Lastly, big landowners like you got no sympathy in the corridors of power and you didn't cause a problem to others. The Christians and Muslims of the Holy Land (80 generations of welcoming pilgrims and visitors) are completely different in both respects.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

11/12/19

bml00 said:

Where in your opinion are there borders which are in dispute ( Golan heights aside as this is obvious)

What you mean is, you've no intention of complying with anything.

Golan is simply the location of your next-to-last atrocity, ethnically cleansing 99.94% of the Christians there.

Where you're apparently expanding your Lebensraum there according to the map I've posted.

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bml00

From: bml00

11/12/19

SINCE 1945 there have been dozens of wars with millions killed with no observation what so ever of human rights, the wars to end all wars merely bred as per human nature since the dawn of time even more wars with worse yet to come

Modern wars have moved from battlefields to city streets and are now fought with enemies using their knowledge of the city versus the armies of tomorrow with their almost invincible powers 

These debates merely show the frustrations of various parties but they change nothing

As a Yehudi  I am home , I don’t where you call home but I wish you luck and the sense to live your life well

BM

  • Edited November 12, 2019 11:52 pm  by  bml00
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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

11/12/19

bml00 said:

the wars to end all wars merely bred as per human nature since the dawn of time even more wars with worse yet to come

You're just happier meeting fascists.

bml00

From: bml00

11/12/19

Ding dong the dingbat up all night 5.00am West London Time is busy writing shite , once Xmas has passed normal service will be resumed 

Another all nighter for nothing

BM

6686L

From: 6686L

11/13/19

 We know who you are, what you are so who do you think you are fooling.   The loss of the “right of conquest” according to you Muslim-lovers applies only to us yids - certainly not to Jordan, who invaded Palestine in 1948 and kept a good chunk of it till it was thrown out.  

  • Edited November 13, 2019 1:01 am  by  6686L
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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

11/13/19

6686L said:

The loss of the “right of conquest” according to you Muslim-lovers applies only to us yids - certainly not to Jordan, who invaded Palestine in 1948 and kept a good chunk of it till it was thrown out.  

That's just a lie, isn't it?

It was Moshe Sharett who first proposed that Jordan should annex the West Bank in October 1948!

A conference in December saw the Palestinians request annexation and another in Cairo saw it legalised by international treaty of the neighbours.

Your problem is that you hate and despise Christians and Muslims and want to see them suffer and die.

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