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Started 11/21/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 67765 views. (Closed)(Closed to new replies)
Underground network readies homes to hide undocumented immigrants
 
By Kyung Lah, Alberto Moya and Mallory Simon, CNN
 
Updated 8:46 PM EST, Sun February 26, 2017

 (CNN) —  A hammer pounds away in the living room of a middle class home. A sanding machine smoothes the grain of the wood floor in the dining room.
 
But this home Pastor Ada Valiente is showing off in Los Angeles, with its refurbished floors, is no ordinary home.
 
“It would be three families we host here,” Valiente says.
 
By “host,” she means provide refuge to people who may be sought by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, known as ICE. The families staying here would be undocumented immigrants, fearing an ICE raid and possible deportation.
 
The purchase of this home is part of a network formed by Los Angeles religious leaders across faiths in the wake of Donald Trump’s election. The intent is to shelter hundreds, possibly thousands of undocumented people in safe houses across Southern California.
 
The goal is to offer another sanctuary beyond religious buildings or schools, ones that require federal authorities to obtain warrants before entering the homes.
 
“That’s what we need to do as a community to keep families together,” Valiente says.
 
At another Los Angeles neighborhood miles away, a Jewish man shows off a sparsely decorated spare bedroom in his home. White sheets on the bed and the clean, adjacent full bathroom bear all the markers of an impending visit. The man, who asked not to be identified, pictures an undocumented woman and her children who may find refuge in his home someday.
 
The man says he’s never been in trouble before and has difficulty picturing that moment. But he’s well educated and understands the Fourth Amendment, which gives people the right to be secure in their homes, against unreasonable searches and seizures. He’s pictured the moment if ICE were to knock on his door.
 
“I definitely won’t let them in. That’s our legal right,” he says. “If they have a warrant, then they can come in. I can imagine that could be scary, but I feel the consequences of being passive in this moment is a little scary.”
 
The secret network
Rev. Zach Hoover wants to help immigrant families fearing deportation stay hidden and together.
 
The religious leaders have a name for their network: the Rapid Response Team. The idea is not necessarily a new one, according to Reverend Zach Hoover, executive director of the interfaith community organization LA Voice.
 
Hoover, 37, wasn’t an active member during the Sanctuary Movement of the 1980s when US congregations across faiths resisted federal law and provided shelter for Central Americans fleeing
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

2/15/21

The topic is Israel.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)

2/15/21

So, it looks like you've decided on spamming me with vids from yer multiple nics . . . instead of taking part in any discussion, lad . . .

Anyway, regarding the sanctuary movement I happen to support it . . . and here is an article that describes it pretty well - origin, purpose, etc. . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_movement

The Sanctuary movement was a religious and political campaign in the United States that began in the early 1980s to provide safe haven for Central American refugees fleeing civil conflict. The movement was a response to federal immigration policies that made obtaining asylum difficult for Central Americans.

As the article also points out - the movement led to Temporary Protected Status . . . an item that donnie boy wrongly screwed up . . . 

But ya see - the movement is about asylum not immigration (in and of itself) . . . 

So, which is it that you are wanting to address - immigration or asylum, eh lad . . . 

slackerx

From: slackerx

2/15/21

The topic is Israel.

  • Edited February 15, 2021 1:26 am  by  slackerx
8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)

2/15/21

So, it looks like you've decided on spamming me with vids from yer multiple nics . . . instead of taking part in any discussion, lad . . .

Anyway, regarding the sanctuary movement I happen to support it . . . and here is an article that describes it pretty well - origin, purpose, etc. . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_movement

The Sanctuary movement was a religious and political campaign in the United States that began in the early 1980s to provide safe haven for Central American refugees fleeing civil conflict. The movement was a response to federal immigration policies that made obtaining asylum difficult for Central Americans.

As the article also points out - the movement led to Temporary Protected Status . . . an item that donnie boy wrongly screwed up . . . 

But ya see - the movement is about asylum not immigration (in and of itself) . . . 

So, which is it that you are wanting to address - immigration or asylum, eh lad . . . 

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The topic is Israel.

Why yes it is, slackerx/ramsey/recardomath, etc. . . . which is why I wonder why yer posting a bunch of stuff that is not about Israel . . . such as the recent vid you posted to me about the sanctuary movement in the U.S. that donnie boy screwed up . . . 

It is also why I limited my initial question to you ta concerning immigration . . . that you've yet to address, lad . . .

So, is there something about immigration to Israel that you wish to discuss, eh lad . . .

The topic is Israel.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)

2/15/21

So, it looks like you've decided on spamming me with vids from yer multiple nics . . . instead of taking part in any discussion, lad . . .

Anyway, regarding the sanctuary movement I happen to support it . . . and here is an article that describes it pretty well - origin, purpose, etc. . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_movement

The Sanctuary movement was a religious and political campaign in the United States that began in the early 1980s to provide safe haven for Central American refugees fleeing civil conflict. The movement was a response to federal immigration policies that made obtaining asylum difficult for Central Americans.

As the article also points out - the movement led to Temporary Protected Status . . . an item that donnie boy wrongly screwed up . . . 

But ya see - the movement is about asylum not immigration (in and of itself) . . . 

So, which is it that you are wanting to address - immigration or asylum, eh lad . . . 

==================================

The topic is Israel.

Why yes it is, slackerx/ramsey/recardomath, etc. . . . which is why I wonder why yer posting a bunch of stuff that is not about Israel . . . such as the recent vid you posted to me about the sanctuary movement in the U.S. that donnie boy screwed up . . . 

It is also why I limited my initial question to you ta concerning immigration . . . that you've yet to address, lad . . .

So, is there something about immigration to Israel that you wish to discuss, eh lad . . .

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The topic is Israel.

As you can see above - I happen to agree that is what the topic of the thread is supposed ta be about . . . thus the initial question to you about immigration . . . not only the initial question to you . . . but as you can see above even more specific "So, is there something about immigration to Israel that you wish to discuss, eh lad" . . . i.e. immigration as it relates to Israel . . . or is there some other topic/issue concerning Israel that you would prefer to address concerning Israel, eh lad . . . 

The topic is Israel.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)

2/15/21

Hey, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath . . . perhaps it is you don't wish to address/discuss what would be a controversial topic/issue about Israel . . . so here is a topic that can't think would be controversial -

Snow in Israel . . .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_in_Israel

Snowfall in Israel is uncommon but it occurs sometimes in certain parts of the country. In January and February 1950, Israel experienced the largest snowfall registered since the beginning of meteorological measurements in 1870. 

The snow event began in early January 1950 with a hailstorm in Tel Aviv and light snow in the mountains of the Upper Galilee and Jerusalem.[1]

On January 27, it began to snow in the northern mountains and Jerusalem. It piled up but quickly melted. A cold front spread throughout the country and snow began falling in the mountains of Samaria and the West. On the 28th it snowed in Haifa and piled up to a height of 15 cm. Even in Tel Aviv, snow fell for several minutes.[2] On January 29, it snowed again in Haifa, blanketing most of the city in white.

On December 13, 2013, 40–70 cm (16–28 in) of snow fell in Jerusalem and 1 m (3 ft 3 in) in the Kefar Etzion area. Warmer parts of Israel received heavy rains, causing floods. Although it was the Sabbath, the railway into Jerusalem ran for people stranded by blocked roads.

Roads were closed in Israel by deep snow and flooding. Storm clouds prompted Ben Gurion International Airport to shut down, forcing US Secretary of State John Kerry to cut short his meeting with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in Ramallah to return to Israel before roads and airports were out of service.

With the snowfall of 2013 lasting a bit . . . makes me wonder if there were and or are some cross country skiing fans in Israel . . . would have been a great time ta get some time in doing that . . . 

Do you know if it say gets cold enough for long enough that maybe it might be viable to set up some sort of complex and do man made snow . . . 

I don"t care.

Feel free to post to somebody who does.

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