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Started 5/6/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 4558 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/20/20

Hostess discussion about Goss' Macro


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

You mentioned something about help for hosts dealing with problem people in the forum.

The problem people in your Forum are people like Adwil, lying and trying to enforce compliance with genocide.

All this talk about what "historians" may have written - when his buddies foul up and hide the evidence of their genocide.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/21/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Hostess discussion about Goss' Macro

Goss's macro is no problem to anyone.

His humanity and decency is what threatens genocidal monsters like Adwil.

Can't guess which side Australians would take - some of them might be genocidal monsters too.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/22/20

Iran


bml00 said:

duh

You hate me because I'm clearly not stupid.

I've now seen Richard Evans' book on David Irving and am satisfied he falsified history from his first book (Dresden). Fuller explanation in next message rather than overflow this one.

However, he's nowhere near as dishonest as you Israel continues to be!

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-how-israel-systematically-hides-evidence-of-1948-expulsion-of-arabs-1.7435103
International forces overseeing the evacuation of Iraq al-Manshiyya, near today's Kiryat Gat, in March, 1949.Credit: Collection of Benno Rothenberg/Israel State Archives

Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs

Since early last decade, [c. 2000 - ed] Defense Ministry teams have scoured local archives and removed troves of historic documents to conceal proof of the Nakba

July 5 2019 - Four years ago, historian Tamar Novick was jolted by a document she found in the file of Yosef Waschitz, from the Arab Department of the left-wing Mapam Party, in the Yad Yaari archive at Givat Haviva. The document, which seemed to describe events that took place during the 1948 war, began:

“Safsaf [former Palestinian village near Safed] – 52 men were caught, tied them to one another, dug a pit and shot them. 10 were still twitching. Women came, begged for mercy. Found bodies of 6 elderly men. There were 61 bodies. 3 cases of rape, one east of from Safed, girl of 14, 4 men shot and killed. From one they cut off his fingers with a knife to take the ring.”

The writer goes on to describe additional massacres, looting and abuse perpetrated by Israeli forces in Israel’s War of Independence. “There’s no name on the document and it’s not clear who’s behind it,” Dr. Novick tells Haaretz. “It also breaks off in the middle. I found it very disturbing. I knew that finding a document like this made me responsible for clarifying what happened.”

The Upper Galilee village of Safsaf was captured by the Israel Defense Forces in Operation Hiram toward the end of 1948. ... Allegations were made over the years that the Seventh Brigade committed war crimes in the village. Those charges are supported by the document Novick found ... also constitute additional evidence that the Israeli top brass knew about what was going on in real time.

Novick decided to consult ... Benny Morris ... told her that he, too, had come across similar documentation in the past ... Mapam Central Committee member Aharon Cohen ... notes ... “Safsaf 52 men tied with a rope. Dropped into a pit and shot. 10 were killed. Women pleaded for mercy. [There were] 3 cases of rape. Caught and released. A girl of 14 was raped. Another 4 were killed. Rings of knives.”

... this document was also found in the Yad Yaari Archive. But when Novick returned to examine the document, she was surprised to discover that it was no longer there.

... When she asked those in charge where the document was, she was told that it had been placed behind lock and key at Yad Yaari – by order of the Ministry of Defense ... Hundreds of documents have been concealed as part of a systematic effort to hide evidence of the Nakba.

... the operation is being spearheaded by Malmab, the Defense Ministry’s secretive security department ... whose activities and budget are classified. The report asserts that Malmab removed historical documentation illegally and with no authority

... Malmab has concealed testimony from IDF generals about the killing of civilians and the demolition of villages, as well as documentation of the expulsion of Bedouin during the first decade of statehood ... staff of the security department had treated the archives as their property, in some cases threatening the directors themselves.

Yehiel Horev, who headed Malmab for two decades, until 2007 ... maintains that it makes sense to conceal the events of 1948, because uncovering them could generate unrest among the country’s Arab population. 

... According to a document from '48, 70 percent of the Arabs left as a result of Jewish military operations.

... One case the committee discussed concerned “grave actions” carried out in the village of Al-Dawayima, east of Kiryat Gat. "...  further clarification is best. What happened in Galilee – those are Nazi acts! Every one of our members must report what he knows.”

... This document was the basis for an article that Benny Morris published in 1986. After the article appeared, the document was removed from the archive and rendered inaccessible to researcher ... could not have known that a few years later researchers from Akevot would find a copy of the text and run it past the military censors – who authorized its publication unconditionally. Now, after years of concealment, the gist of the document is being revealed here.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/22/20

Crimes of War - Specifically Australian actions against civilians in Afghanistan


bml00 said:

You will reach a position where winning wars / battles will become impossible .

Thankyou for admitting what we knew all along - Israel's existence is based on gross criminal abuses.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/22/20

Covid Blame Game


Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

US President Donald Trump ramps up his rhetoric against China, accusing it of being responsible for a "mass worldwide killing" because of its handling of the coronavirus outbreak.

What you've quoted there is worse than anything said by David Irving against the Jews (that I'm aware of, anyway). 

You'd not quote Goebbels and his ranting on the Jews without at least some mention of opposition to his views.

Yet that article has nothing like that. QED.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/22/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Iran

History of our attacks on and destruction of Iran also been shamefully covered up.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/22/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Crimes of War - Specifically Australian actions against civilians in Afghanistan

BM appears to support such war-crimes. Judging by similar ones we might link to him.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/22/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Covid Blame Game

Raised by Trump up to - even beyond - the level of Goebbels.

What's the point of all this expensive Holocaust education if we behave just like the perpetrators?

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

Tell you what...

I'll include a link from now on, so people can find your post.

It's more than you deserve, so be thankful.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

Misogyny


bml00 said:

The mind boggles with the mentality of the people who commit these crimes

Say the people who torture kiddies.

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