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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

May-31

Race riots in the US


CzoeMC said:

A man recorded breaking windows Wednesday has sparked a range of theories as to who he is.

Speculation about the identity of the so-called “Umbrella Man”—captured on video using a hammer to smash windows of a Minneapolis AutoZone during Wednesday’s protests—have swirled since a video of him spread online, sparking claims he is an undercover police officer directed to stir up trouble, which local departments quickly denied.

.... The speculation into Umbrella Man’s identity comes as Minneapolis officials suggest that growing numbers of people—including possible white supremacists—on the streets showing destructive behavior are not members of the community and are coming to the city from out of state. 

I'd not think it was very likely, but as long as the US sends its police to Israel to be trained in ethnic profiling and as agent provocateurs, these suspicions are bound to swirl.

Of course, the real problem is that US police are extremely violent to white people too.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

May-31

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

WW1 started over a royal assassination and resulted in the deaths of millions due to rampant incompetence by  British upper-class twits. 

I see you lashing out at the British in an irrational outburst.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

WW1 ... was a pointless and needless war. 

What, over-running neighbouring nations is not the biggest possible international crime, and not something we should aspire to prevent?

Oh, wait a moment, Israel has made it legal and good. 

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

WW2 was a necessary battle against a real evil.  Hitler. 

Was it? Stalin was a much, much bigger mass murderer. You need evidence of that or have I pointed it out before and you ignored it?

Stalin was almost as guilty against Poland - and targeted the elite for murder. 

Poland was much more violent and deeply anti-semitic - proposed the Madagascar plan. By 1939 had ethnically cleansed most Germans (perhaps even German Jews?) from Bromberg. 

Our ally The US was much, much more brutal and racist to minorities (I can find almost nothing like that going on in Nazi Germany).

I believe I can prove that the alleged antisemitism of the Nazis was almost entirely a plot by Stephen Wise and the AJC and the JWV to fund and populate Palestine.

The only thing Hitler was definitely guilty of was over-running the borders of its neighbours (same as what caused WW1).

But attacking your neighbours is being gloated over right in this Forum, so you cannot claim you care about it.

Setting the army on minorities is openly on the cards here and people back Trump.

No wonder you hate me and won't allow discussion - you know I'm absolutely correct.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

Jun-1

As a judge you are unqualified and should recuse yourself. What you are basicly doing is playing censor which makes your forum not a forum. 

as a repeat G=G+1

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

Jun-1

G=G+1 if Jennifer´s concept of her role in a forum is making it not a forum by hijacking threads as a form of censorship, it is not a forum n the first place.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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RGoss99 said:

As a judge you are unqualified and should recuse yourself.

Then you be the judge.

Start at the beginning of the Troll thread an just read.

You will either be ashamed of the toxic vitriol you consistently spew, or proud of the hurt you have caused another human being.

Sadly, trolls prefer the latter.

CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

Jun-1

Race riots in the US

From: BerrySteph

7:39 AM

bml00 said:

the blacks are disarmed  Another GEM of such unique stupidity it defies all logic

Doesn't appear many of them have guns - let alone pallets full of ammunition like the IDF had.

29 June 2004 ... an anecdote told by former MI head Amos Malka to Akiva Eldar (Haaretz, June 11). It turns out that during the first few days of the Al-Aqsa Intifada, soldiers in the territories fired 1,300,000 bullets.

... This was not a war on terror, but on the Palestinian people.

... chief of staff Mofaz bragged that the IDF, which had predicted the outbreak of violence in the territories ... given a free hand to shoot without limit. In the first three months of the intifada, the number of Israeli casualties was low, at which time the IDF proudly cited the large number of Palestinian casualties as evidence of the military victory and the correctness of the policy of massive use of force. http://www.haaretz.com/more-than-a-million-bullets-1.127053

Had anyone attacked you? No, far from it:

... a quiet year until the intifada: in the first nine months of 2000, one Israeli died from Palestinian terrorism.[9. "New Tries for Mideast Peace" New York Times (editorial), 31 October 2003. See also Dan Margalit, "As long as Terrorism is Kept at Bay" Ha'aretz, 4 September 2000, p. 5 - DEAD LINK but cited International Peacekeeping: The Yearbook of International Peace Operations edited by Michael Bothe, Boris Kondoch Volume 7, 2002.]

... [According to the Israelis] Arafat and the Palestinian leadership wanted an outbreak of violence.[2. See "Comment of the Government of Israel on the Report of the Sharm El-Sheikh Fact-finding Committee," 15 May 2001, p. 2; Barak's comments in Charles Enderlin, Shattered Dreams: The Failure of the Peace Process in the Middle East, 1995-2002 (New York: Other Press, 2003), pp. 302, 321-22; Shai Feldman, "The October Violence: An Interim Assessment," Strategic Assessment 3, no. 3 (November 2000), http://www.tau.ac.il/jcss/sa/v3n3p7.html; Gilead Sher (summary of remarks prepared by Liat Radcliffe); "The Brink of Peace? An Inside Look from Camp David to Taba," Peacewatch, no. 318 (18 April 2001), http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/watch/Peacewatch/peacewatch2001/318.htm; Eliot A. Cohen, "It's a War. Now, to What End?" Washington Post, 21 April 2002; and Uzi Benziman, "Green light, red flag," Ha'aretz, 27 October 2000.]

[According to the Zionist version] The Palestinians did not get what they wanted at Camp David, and they believed violence would pressure Israel into further concessions.

Another variant of this [Israeli] explanation is that being seen as the leader of a new intifada would rescue Arafat from being viewed as an obstacle to peace in the wake of the failed summit at Camp David in July 2000. In any case, it would be better and more heroic if the Palestinian state were born through violence. This explanation for the intifada is coupled with a second idea: that the violent outbreak would serve as a platform for the unilateral declaration of Palestinian statehood. The Israeli government pushed the idea of pre-meditated Palestinian violence in its public relations efforts.[3. Ben Kaspit, "Israel Will Reveal 'Top Secret' Intelligence Data as Part of PR Campaign," Ma'ariv , 1 November 2000.]

The view that Arafat and the Palestinian Authority orchestrated the outbreak of the initfada was rejected by the Mitchell committee, the investigative body set up by the United States and others in late 2000.[4. Report of the Sharm el-Sheikh Fact-Finding Committee [hereinafter Mitchell Report], full text of the report completed on 30 April 2001 and published on 20 May 2001, http://2001-2009.state.gov/p/nea/rls/rpt/3060.htm p.7.]

[... References 5 & 6 & 7 & 8 & 9 & 10 & 11 & 12 & 13 & 14 & 15 & 16 & 17 & 18 & 19 ... ]

In short, "Many among the Palestinian leadership sought the assistance of their Israeli counterparts to prevent Sharon's visit. They were turned down."[19. Danny Rubinstein, "Kindling a religious war," Ha'aretz, 2 October 2000, p. 3.]

Even after the violence broke out, Israel and the PA continued to negotiate suggesting that neither side had abandoned the diplomatic route. During December 2000 and January 2001, the two parties engaged in high-level, comprehensive talks to try to resolve remaining differences. They dealt with substantive issues and considered further concessions.[20. For more details on the continuing negotiations, see Jeremy Pressman, "Visions in Collision: What Happened at Camp David and Taba?" International Security 28, no. 2 (Fall 2003).]

This casts doubt on the claim that the Palestinians had abandoned talks for a violent path. Sections two through four outline an alternative and more compelling explanation. https://journals.lib.unb.ca/index.php/jcs/article/view/220/378

Journal of Conflict Studies, Vol 23, No 2 (Fall 2003), The Second Intifada: Background and Causes of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jun-2

BM100 said:

the blacks are disarmed  Another GEM of such unique stupidity it defies all logic

100% relevant to the topic "Race riots in the US"

Disarmed American blacks by US police trained in Israel where they've disarmed the Palestinians and slaughter them freely.

BM is proud of this stuff - why are you acting ashamed of it?

bml00

From: bml00

Jun-2

There is no one group which is disarmed in the US or could be disarmed in the US - as advised US training in Israel is for very special units only

bm

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jun-2

bml00 said:

There is no one group which is disarmed in the US or could be disarmed in the US - as advised US training in Israel is for very special units only

Up to you - can believe lies or you learn something from me.

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