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Started 5/23/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 10814 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/31/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Since, from the photo and descrription I saw no hijabs, the use of this word, is simply a slightly tainted racist code word if read by an Austrailian indicating that it was a shop where <> people go to buy clothes. 

I agree - in the Oz context, it is intended as a racist slur.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/31/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

No she does not, if she did, she would not have said she was joking.That came out because she got caught by me. Sort of like when Trump said to take bleach, and some people did, so he said he was only joking.

Not only racist but angrily using her own mistakes to claim others are racists.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/31/20

CzoeMC said:

Wow, bml00 was accepted into the UN...as an entire nation? I had no idea. What an honor!

If the US were to be ripped up by what's going on now I'd not be the smallest bit surprised.

After all, the US sends its police to Israel to be trained in racial profiling.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/31/20

There is a British equivalent often referring to a bazaar, shop, or chippy, referred to as a "chinky" where the proprietor is Oriental, occasionally Chinese.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/31/20

RGoss99 said:

There is a British equivalent often referring to a bazaar, shop, or chippy, referred to as a "chinky" where the proprietor is Oriental, occasionally Chinese.

I've not heard "chinky" for a very long time. And I would argue that, since we were all happy customers of these "chinkies" it did not have racist over-tones.

Whereas "hijab shop" in a headline does have racist over-tones.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/31/20

Not heard "chinky" in a long time" - depends on where you are, I have, and seen kids singing "chinky songs" were the hand gestures  incluing making slanted eyes.

I admit my recent exposure to it is Ireland and North of England and Scotland.

https://www.lyrics.com/artist/chinky

There could be many reasons for your not hearing it, one of which is a built in filter. For example absolutely forbidden words in English are quite common here among little kids even English and Catalá. I have been programmed not to use them when I first arrived I used to flinch, but now I am not even aware of them. 

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/31/20

RGoss99 said:

Not heard "chinky" in a long time" - depends on where you are, I have, and seen kids singing "chinky songs" were the hand gestures  incluing making slanted eyes. I admit my recent exposure to it is Ireland and North of England and Scotland. https://www.lyrics.com/artist/chinky 

Never come across anything like that!

RGoss99 said:

forbidden words in English are quite common here among little kids even English and Catalá. I have been programmed not to use them when I first arrived I used to flinch, but now I am not even aware of them. 

You should gossip a bit, tell us more.

The term gained renewed attention in 2014 after it a recording emerged of UKIP candidate Kerry Smith referring to a woman of Chinese background as a "chinky bird".

That is surely offensive and unnecessary. I'm just not aware of ever having heard it. I referred to a "wet-back" in about 1997 and that's probably the last thought-crime I've ever been guilty of.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

5/31/20

Wet back and in translation mullat or mojado, is used here but not to the same degree of racism because it does not refer to people here but the boat people who risk their lives getting here from Africa. Very dangerous boats, basicly throw aways because they are usually abandoned once they arrive. the majority are Africans who have illegally crossed from Black Africa into the Magreb. If you have seen pictures of illegals rushing the fence in Melilla and Ceuta, the majority are Africans. The Moorish who illegaly enter these cities don´t usually cross the water in little boats. this is because since they are alrady technicly in Europe, there are ways of getting illegal papers which would allow them to fly in or take the ferries. I am not sure of the Muslim connection with the boat people, because the boat operators and "tour guides" are usually Black Africans, but there must be some European or Moroccan connections at their point of departure. The difference is that wet back (r wet packs, or also mojados) in the U.S. usually refers to those who have made it in, and have some illegal settle arrangements. Where as here they are caught by the coastguard off shore, or the Guardia Civil after landing so very few have a chance to settle here. Their aim is usually to fly on or take the ferry to Barcelona or Valencia and disappear in Europe some where. Their problem on Mallorca is for the legal residents hiring or shelterin them is a very serious crime with harsh financial disincentives. If their assistants comes from foreign legal residents, it is automatic deporttion for them and their families. So a Black African here legally would be risking a lot in aiding them. The Brits have a lot of racist expressions and jokes, and I have noticed that most of these I have heard in Scotland are from English, who rationalize this with the traditional joks about English, Irish, Scots, Welsh as if it is a valid tradition to which I answer then why is it always the Englishman who comes out on top. Speaking of which, here is an antiracist Irish joke I like. An Irish nafi approaches the gov in a construction site asking for a job. And is typical the English gov says I´ll have to give you a test (for which the Irish traditionally fails). He says what is the difference between a joist and a girder. The Irishman says, oh that´s simple, Joist was Irish and wrote "Ulysses," and girder was German and wrote "Faust".

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

6/1/20

As your negatives towards me tend to exist only in your imagination, since you seem unable to give examples. this is another example of your OT trolling.

Also an example of your wimpy passive-aggressiveness since you are sending a message which can never be responded to because without an example it can never be responded to, sort of a thread hijacking non seq.

Another example of your absolutst thinking is you immature assumption that because this is your interpretation, you feel it is the only one. For example my non response to your imaginary humor might be that while I recognize your feeble attempt at humor, I see behind it a context of fear and frustration which I could document if you provided me with an example. Unless humor is against oneself, it often is a symtom of personal fear, anxiety, nervousness, and misdirected anger.

G=G+1

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/1/20

Hijab House is the name of the store.

Your insults perfectly suit this thread.

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