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The Inevitable Civil War begins   America - all of it

Started 1/7/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 51369 views.
Msg 107 of 389 to katiek2katiek2 
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/24/21

katiek2 said:

In plain speak, we're going to round up anyone we can get to that supported Trump or confesses to being a Republican.

No, in plain speak, they are going to investigate anyone who threatens to kill an elected US official - whoever that may be and whatever their deluded reasons for doing so, are.

katiek2 said:

We're going to shut off any methods of conversation they may have and if they so much as open their mouths we're going to toss them in jail for the rest of their lives.

If that were true, why aren't you in jail right now just for saying that?

I support freedom of speech and I am opposed to cancel culture.  But if your lies get people killed, then there have to be consequences.  The first one being the confiscation of your megaphone.

I often asked you during 2020 what Trump would have to do to make you open your eyes to the danger he poses to your country.

A policeman was beaten to death by an angry mob doing his bidding - which was to stop the ratification of a fair and secure democratic election.  And you're still supporting him, and defending the people who LITERALLY shit on the Capitol building.

So he is right.  He could shoot someone on 5th avenue and you just wouldn't care.

How exactly do I talk to you, considering that is your firm stance?

 
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/24/21

www.abc.net.au

Biden inherits a deeply divided America, perhaps that's why he gave a nod to Lincoln

Joe Biden's inauguration was a chance for the 46th president to put his own stamp on the role. But if you paid attention, you likely heard him reference another president.

Read more from www.abc.net.au

 
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From: katiek2

1/24/21

Exactly the same way I talk to you considering you speak only your opinion, not the truth.

 
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/27/21

katiek2 said:

Exactly the same way I talk to you considering you speak only your opinion, not the truth.

Katie, the Earth is not flat.  That is not an opinion, it is fact.

But what exactly are you declaring is my opinion and not truth?

Was NO policemen bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher?

Did rioters NOT shit and urinate in the Capitol building?

Did Trump NOT encourage his minions to walk down Pennsylvania avenue and "stop the steal"?

 
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Msg 111 of 389 to Jenifer (Zarknorph)Zarknorph 
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From: katiek2

1/27/21

I gave you examples of actual quotes made by democrat leaders outlining what they want to do to anyone that supported Trump.  I even left out a few.  You responded with more criticism of me supporting Trump.  Yes, there was violence at the capital.  No, I do not support that violence.  I do not believe Trump incited violence, unless you believe a call to "peacefully and patriotically" march to the capital, incitement for riot.  Yes, people were killed.  No, the fact that I supported Trump does not make me a party to violence, unless you want to throw the same mantle over democrats that support BLM and ANTIFA.

I just read the entire transcript of that speech.  It's hard to read, it's disjointed, doesn't make much sense, but NOWHERE does Trump tell that crowd to go to the Capital and riot.  If you're interested, here is the link.  https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-13/transcript-of-trumps-speech-at-rally-before-us-capitol-riot

 
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From: katiek2

1/27/21

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

But what exactly are you declaring is my opinion and not truth?

When I write something, I try to say exactly, in so many words, what I mean.  When you come back to me with what you THINK I mean, that is replacing my truth with your opinion.

 
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From: bml00

1/27/21

There is a witch hunt for Trump the waste of time attempt at impeachment will only strengthen his supporters and will bring forth in the next election somebody who will have political acumen that Trump lacked .

The current level of hatred on the left is incredible and apparently if you voted for Trump you were illiterate , stupid and uneducated but if you voted for Biden you went to Harvard and wore the whitest of white shirts etc 

WOW where is America heading , Biden can barely put two words together 

BM

 
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From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

1/27/21

‘We Are Armed and Nearby Your House’: Ex-Air Force Captain Who Believed Trump Won Allegedly Threatened New York Congressman’s Family
 
 
Robert Lemke’s Facebook Page featured a large image of Mark and Patricia McCloskey
 
A former U.S. Air Force Captain and retired police sergeant with the Alameda County Sheriff’s Office was arrested by federal authorities Tuesday morning for allegedly making a series of threats against the family of a New York congressman who did not support former President Donald Trump’s false claims that he was the true winner of the 2020 election.
 
According to a criminal complaint unsealed in the Southern District of New York on Tuesday, Robert Lemke, 35, sent several text messages to the unnamed east coast lawmaker’s family on Jan. 6, the same day that Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol Complex with members of Congress still inside sheltering in place.
 
“Your brother is putting your entire family at risk with his lies and other words. We are armed and nearby your house. You had better have a word with him. We are not far from his either. Already spoke to [Congressman-1’s son] and know where his kids are,” Lemke allegedly said to the congressman’s brother via text message. The messages also included a photo of a house in the same neighborhood where the congressman’s brother lived.
 
“[Y]our words have consequences. Stop telling lies; [Joe] Biden did not win, he will not be president. We are not[] white supremacists. Most of us are active/retired law enforcement or military,” he added, possibly referring to the Oath Keepers or another right-wing militia group. “You are putting your family at risk. We have armed members near your home . . . . . Don’t risk their safety with your words and lies.”
 
Lemke is also accused of sending messages to the congressman’s sister-in-law, telling her to calm her husband down and claiming that two were being spied on.
 
“We saw on the hidden camera, he was quite stirred up. You need to have him talk with [Congressman 1]. Thanks,” the message said.
 
Though Lemke did not attend the Jan. 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, a catalogue of his social media posts provided in the charging document made clear that he had fully bought into the false conspiracy theory that Democrats stole the election from Trump.
 
“Folks. Be ready for war. Trump has refused to cede. Evidence shows fraud occurred and the Supreme Court cases will be successful,” he wrote in a Nov. 7 Facebook post, per the complaint. “We blockchained and watermarked ballots in 16 states. Trump will prevail.. Spread this message. . . . FAITH my fellow Republicans. Do not give up. Keep an eye out for a variety of protests, and Stop The Steal Facebook groups for updates.”
 
The charging document also noted that the background of Lemke’s Facebook page displayed a small photo of Lemke’s face partially covered by the words “Trump 2020” atop a large background photo of Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis attorneys who were criminally charged after pointing guns at Black Lives Matter protesters outside of the last summer.
 
Lemke is also alleged to have sent threatening messages to the unnamed relative of a journalist, which said: “[The Journalist’s] words are putting you and your family at risk. We are nearby armed and ready. Thousands of us are active/retired law enforcement, military, etc. That’s how we do it.”
 
“As alleged, Robert Lemke was dissatisfied with the results of the 2020 Presidential Election and subsequent statements about the election made by a U.S. Congressman and journalist. Rather than peaceably disagree, Lemke allegedly threatened to harm those individuals’ families, demanding they retract their statements,” acting Southern District of New York U.S. Attorney Audrey Strauss said in a statement. “The electoral process is the essential mechanism through which our democracy functions. While in any election it is inevitable that some will be disappointed in the result, threats of violence cannot and will not be tolerated.”
 
Read the full complaint below:
 
 
 
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From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

1/29/21

bml00 said:

There is a witch hunt for Trump

There is no witch hunt for Trump.

That's just Confederate Nazi propoganda being pushed by foreigners who hate America and who want to see Iowans shot every time there's an election.

It's just an attempt by outside agitators to overthrow my country.

 
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From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

1/29/21

katiek2 said:

In plain speak, we're going to round up anyone we can get to that supported Trump or confesses to being a Republican. 

What have you gotten out of these conspiracy theories besides dead and wounded Iowans?

Before Trump, Iowans didn't get shot by Confederate Nazis in every presidential election.

We used to settle our elections without all this violence.

 
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