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The Inevitable Civil War begins   America - all of it

Started 1/7/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 50411 views.
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el gringo (ramseylurker)

From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

2/6/21

bml00 said:

it is also a Religious Country

What BM (and Mike Pompeo) tends to forget is that we are also a multicultural country, so that, for example, in the post above, one can see how people of different faiths banded together to resist 4 years of Confederate Nazi rule, from the very start of the Trump Administration.

 
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2/8/21

bml00 said:

America is by its nature more to the right than the left

I would disagree.  The last two republican presidents lost the popular vote (Bush did get 50.7 in 2004, however).  Biden has a strong approval rating when Trump could never crack 50% on anything.

As for the rest, you can never truly unite a country that went to war with itself.

That fracture will never heal.

 
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bml00

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2/8/21

England went to war in a CIVIl war Spain the same so I disagree

BM

 
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

2/8/21

The Roundheads' and the Cavaliers' skirmishes don't matter anymore because England shed itself of Puritanism.  Anyone would be grateful for that.

And any Catalan will tell you that Spain is hardly united.

 
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bml00

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2/8/21

I beleive we could argue this forever and to avoid wasting Your time and mine I raise the flag

BM

 
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el gringo (ramseylurker)

From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

2/8/21

BullyMan said:

The more the left labels peoples

Let's be honest, shall we?

You're the one who labels us so you can kick us out of the country.

We've seen you do it right here in this forum.

You act like you own this country.

You're just a bully who thinks your whiteness and your guns make you superior.

You have no credibility when you attack America.

 
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bml00

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2/8/21

FUCK OFF YOU ARE SO BORING IT IS INCREDIBLE NOW PISS OFF

 
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el gringo (ramseylurker)

From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

2/8/21

BullyMan said:

FUCK OFF YOU ARE SO BORING IT IS INCREDIBLE NOW PISS OFF

Oh geeze...another tough guy. You remind me of this guy.

The My Pillow guy came here to Iowa for a "Stop the Steal" rally at the Iowa Capitol in Des Moines on December 6, just one month after the election.

At the rally, a heavily armed white man wearing body armor shot his gun into a car carring 4 Black teenage girls, and wounded a 15 year old Black girl.

Des Moines Register

More details on Des Moines shooting that left a Black girl wounded and a white Army vet charged with attempted murder

Michael McKinney, 25, is charged with attempted murder for firing his gun into a car carrying four Black teenagers, all aged 16 or under, during a tense confrontation at a Trump rally Dec. 6 in Des Moines.

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Des Moines Register

Man charged with 5 new felonies in Iowa Trump rally shooting

In addition to attempted murder, the document charges McKinney with intimidation with a dangerous weapon, willful injury, assault while participating in a felony, reckless use of a firearm and going armed with intent.

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el gringo (ramseylurker)

From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

2/8/21

BullyMan said:

it is deeply proud of its achievements and Military

Some of those who BullyMan helped to deport by spreading racist anti-American propoganda.

Business Insider

The Biden administration says it will look into veterans and their families who were deported

The Biden administration says it is overhauling immigration policies to focus on threats, not military veterans and their families.

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el gringo (ramseylurker)

From: el gringo (ramseylurker)

2/9/21

BullyMan said...

Trump rallied the people behind their flag , Americans are fiercely proud of their flag 

I have trained and exercised with the Marines , they are fearsome people , they are dedicated to their mission and their flag .

Your hero is a white supremacist who has committed Treason against my country.

With the help of people like you, spreading your xenophobic white supremacist racism on social media, he's deported US Veterans and their families.

When you attack our families and attack our democracy, you attack America.

You are not allied with the US Military. You have your own private army in my country.

These aren't true US Soldiers. Not even the infiltrators. They are just a bunch of paramilitary terrorist squaddies.

From the New York Times:

‘Its Own Domestic Army’: How the G.O.P. Allied Itself With Militants

‘Its Own Domestic Army’: How the G.O.P. Allied Itself With Militants (msn.com)

LANSING, Mich. — Dozens of heavily armed militiamen crowded into the Michigan Statehouse last April to protest a stay-at-home order by the Democratic governor to slow the pandemic. Chanting and stomping their feet, they halted legislative business, tried to force their way onto the floor and brandished rifles from the gallery over lawmakers below.

 A self-described militia group in Michigan during a training exercise.

Initially, Republican leaders had some misgivings about their new allies. “The optics weren’t good. Next time tell them not to bring guns,” complained Mike Shirkey, the State Senate majority leader, according to one of the protest organizers. But Michigan’s highest-ranking Republican came around after the planners threatened to return with weapons and “militia guys signing autographs and passing out blow-up AR-15s to the kiddies on the Capitol lawn.”
 
“To his credit,” Jason Howland, the organizer, wrote in a social media post, Mr. Shirkey agreed to help the cause and “spoke at our next event.”
 
Following signals from President Donald J. Trump — who had tweeted “LIBERATE MICHIGAN!” after an earlier show of force in Lansing — Michigan’s Republican Party last year welcomed the support of newly emboldened paramilitary groups and other vigilantes. Prominent party members formed bonds with militias or gave tacit approval to armed activists using intimidation in a series of rallies and confrontations around the state. That intrusion into the Statehouse now looks like a portent of the assault halfway across the country months later at the United States Capitol.
 
As the Senate on Tuesday begins the impeachment trial of Mr. Trump on charges of inciting the Jan. 6 Capitol rioting, what happened in Michigan helps explain how, under his influence, party leaders aligned themselves with a culture of militancy to pursue political goals.
 
Michigan has a long tradition of tolerating self-described private militias, which are unusually common in the state. But it is also a critical electoral battleground that draws close attention from top party leaders, and the Republican alliance with paramilitary groups shows how difficult it may be for the national party to extricate itself from the shadow of the former president and his appeal to this aggressive segment of its base.
 
“We knew there would be violence,” said Representative Elissa Slotkin, a Michigan Democrat, about the Jan. 6 assault. Endorsing tactics like militiamen with assault rifles frightening state lawmakers “normalizes violence,” she told journalists last week, “and Michigan, unfortunately, has seen quite a bit of that.”
 
Six Trump supporters from Michigan have been arrested in connection with the storming of the Capitol. One, a former Marine accused of beating a Capitol Police officer with a hockey stick, had previously joined armed militiamen in a protest organized by Michigan Republicans to try to disrupt ballot counting in Detroit.
 
The chief organizer of that protest, Meshawn Maddock, on Saturday was elected co-chair of the state Republican Party — one of four die-hard Trump loyalists who won top posts.
 
Ms. Maddock helped fill 19 buses to Washington for the Jan. 6 rally and defended the April armed intrusion into the Michigan Capitol. When Representative Rashida Tlaib, a Michigan Democrat, suggested at the time that Black demonstrators would never be allowed to threaten legislators like that, Ms. Maddock wrote on Twitter, “Please show us the ‘threat’?”
 
“Oh that’s right you think anyone armed is threatening,” she continued. “It’s a right for a reason and the reason is YOU.”
 
The lead organizer of the April 30 armed protest, Ryan Kelley, a local Republican official, last week announced
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