Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I think you need to start with a uniform system of voting across all 50 states. If you have concerns about mail in ballots, then fix what you think is wrong. If you have concerns about voting machines, then switch to pen and paper (very difficult to hack). And, most importantly, don't blindly accept every claim of voter fraud as true.  Investigate it.

These are the very suggestions that those of us who ask for tightening up of voting procedures have been talking about forever.  

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

 And, most importantly, don't blindly accept every claim of voter fraud as true.  Investigate it.

Why do I have to keep repeating myself?  We don't blindly accept every claim of voter fraud.  They all have to be investigated on a case-by-case basis. 

Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

These are the very suggestions that those of us who ask for tightening up of voting procedures have been talking about forever.

I've only noticed people talking about this since mid 2020.

The electoral college, however, really has to go.

Apollonius (Theocritos) said:

Why do I have to keep repeating myself? We don't blindly accept every claim of voter fraud. They all have to be investigated on a case-by-case basis.

And if they are disproven, you will accept that?

The dead voter conspiracy theory peddled by Trump voters, debunked

US Election 2020: The 'dead voters' in Michigan who are still alive

Part of the problem is the PERCIEVED hold the Left is seen having control of Social Media such as FB and Whatsapp etc which are not only storing but using every method to collect data about peoples thoughts and political views etc .

The right wants to rein in the left and its hold on the media and it is here that one of the battle grounds exist 

BM

OK, first of all, these social media companies are owned by private citizens.  They can set whatever rules they want, just as I can set whatever rules I want on my start page.

It is a taciturn agreement that Delphi gives me free reign to run my forum as I wish, on the condition I don't post child pornography or snuff films.

Perfectly fair.

The far reaching size of Twitter and Facebook means these rules are not enough.  There are the libellous accusations of paedophilic cannibalism directed at Hollywood A-Listers and Democratic senators.  There are calls for violence against minorities, political factions and religious groups.  There is rampant misinformation that threatens democratic elections.  Dangerous misinformation that affects the public health.  And a WHOLE lotta hate.

Twitter and Facebook have every right to put their foot down and say "Enough!  I don't want this shit associated with my brand".

So the batshit crazy loons peddling their hate and conspiracy theories turn and point to the left, while screaming about their rights to free speech. Meanwhile, none of them are taking any responsibility for the people who have died as a direct result of the things they have said.

The 'right' are shouting "Fire!" in a crowded theatre and the 'left' are copping abuse for trying to stop people from getting trampled to death.

The most powerful of these Social media companies are of course FB and whatsapp both owned by the same team both using information from one to the other.

You have no free rein , you have parameters which you permit and then parameters that Delphi set they may seem liberal and wide but I know they are being challenged across the board as people see freedom of speech and expression as allowing untenable opinions to be expressed (this does NOT apply to you) 

The more freedom given to FB etc the more the people lose control of their identities , the more FB reads the algorithms etc 

It is the perceived sense that the Left are leading the march to liberalism and in its way the end of what many seem to accept as correct and right .

BM

And yet, Medura, PUtin, China, Ayatolla and Anitfa are all welcome.  They  probably don't say hateful things though, like they're going to tear our country apart .  I would imagine it's very satisfying for them to have a voice right in the middle of the country.  Of course, there must be a financial benefit to Goggle, Twitter, et al.