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FBI has found SCANT evidence the Capitol riot was an organized plot   America - all of it

Started 8/20/21 by Raven2018; 5224 views.
Raven2018

From: Raven2018

8/26/21

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Raven2018 said: I wonder if Biden/Harris, are ever going to own what's happening in Afghanistan? Well, we know Trump certainly won't.

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Why would Trump own, what Biden/Harris have chosen to do in Afghanistan?

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/27/21

Raven2018 said:

Why would Trump own, what Biden/Harris have chosen to do in Afghanistan?

Trump set it in motion.

He "brokered the deal" that released 5000 Taliban fighters.

This failure is a group effort.  From Bush to Biden and everyone in between.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said...

Raven2018 said:

I wonder if Biden/Harris, are ever going to own what's happening in Afghanistan?

Well, we know Trump certainly won't.

Well, both Trump and Biden have. Trump didn't realize he was stepping in it (again), but was bragging that not only did he design the withdraw from Afghanistan, but (as he continued to brag) he did it in a way that Biden couldn't stop it. 

Biden has many times, accepted the responsibility and continues to do so. 

Raven2018 said...

Why would Trump own, what Biden/Harris have chosen to do in Afghanistan?

Because when he did own it, he didn't think his unstoppable plan would be unpopular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URf8gAdrDTk&t=27s

Raven2018

From: Raven2018

8/30/21

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Trump set it in motion. He "brokered the deal" that released 5000 Taliban fighters. This failure is a group effort. From Bush to Biden and everyone in between.

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No, Trump did not set what Biden decided to do in motion. Trump's plan was nothing like what Biden has done; Biden left thousands of Americans behind, and left vital data at the embassy in the hands of the Taliban, along with the military cache.

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

8/30/21

I'm not disputing that Biden colossally fucked this up!

He did.  

And there needs to be a commission on ALL the failures.

For example - where were the State Department appointees responsible for overseeing the evacuation?

Oh right.  Their appointments are being blocked by Ted Cruz.

Raven2018

From: Raven2018

9/1/21

I'd like to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth ... as well.

CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/2/21

Raven2018 said:

I'd like to know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth ... as well.

Well, well well, you didn't get it from any previous administration, besides Biden's, that it was an undeclared war that could not be won, and too many lives were lost.

(sorry to the esteemed Bellafonte):

Hey Mister Taliban, tally my Americans,

Daylight come and I want to go home.

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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/2/21

Quite sure that Trump did everything that he could to landmine any exodus from Afghanistan, because he actually knew he couldn't pull off a coup, and had done everything in his power to throw a glitch in the withdrawal. Not giving a damn about the people who are/were there.

His presidency was all buffoonery and snake oil. Some of the populace bought it, and were poisoned, the elites lined their pockets, and got their portfolios expanded. Meanwhile... (Colbert fans), meanwhile, the middle class is waking up.

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CzoeMC

From: CzoeMC

9/4/21

One would think that Southerners would not adhere to a northern carpetbagger like Trump, but there is no accounting for taste.

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