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Russia    The U.K and Europe

Started 3/28/18 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 27285 views.
Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

12/31/18

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

12/31/18

Great, they can give the quote to Trump!

Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

3/1/19

 

Russia’s Soft Strategy to Hostile Measures in Europe

They’ve been called political warfare, measures short of war, gray zone warfare, and a host of other terms.   Whatever the preferred term of art, Russia has used a wide range of hostile measures  —  political, economic, diplomatic, intelligence, and military activities  —  to expand its influence and undermine governments across the European continent.   And yet, for all the attention paid to the subject, there remains a basic paradox in Russia’s actions.   On the one hand, Russia’s actions are widespread and sophisticated, employing a varied toolset to differing degrees depending on local circumstances.   On the other, in most of Europe, the results so far have been lackluster at best.   There are two keys to unraveling this enigma. 

First, Russia faces a structural problem: Its leverage tends to be greatest in countries in its near abroad, and not necessarily in those countries best positioned to accomplish Russia’s other key foreign priorities of changing the overall bent of Western policy, undermining institutions like the European Union and NATO or promoting its vision of itself as a great power. 

Second, because its hostile measures are unpredictable and generally unlikely to succeed, Russia has adopted a “soft strategy” for employing these measures, using a wide array of tactics without a clear picture of how they will ultimately serve its interests.

Russian hostile measures span the continent of Europe, from Sweden to Italy and Spain to Moldova.   While some measures are similar in many countries, such as its RT television network and its control of energy resources, Russia also tailors its approach.   Russia can reach out to the population of Russian and Soviet migrants and their children in Estonia and Latvia.   It can seek to exacerbate ethnic conflict in the Balkans by training paramilitaries in Bosnia or stir up strife by sowing discord in the Hungarian minority in Romania.   While Russian ties to the far right across Europe have attracted much of the attention, Russia has also allegedly forged relationships with far-left parties.   And modern Russian propaganda is similarly tailored, if inconsistent, in its messages.   Not all of
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5/31/19

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/20/19

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

6/20/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The parents of Sydney man Jack O'Brien, who was on MH17, recall the gut-wrenching moment they saw the faces of the four men who will be charged with their son's murder.

When will Commander Rogers and Lieutenant Commander Scott Lustig face trial for bringing down Flight 655?

Iran's only act of retaliation or retribution for the downing of Flight 655 was bringing forth a diplomatic and legal case for responsibility and restitution. Speaking to the UN Security Council shortly after the incident and addressing the international support for Iraq against Iran, Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Velayati said:

Our people will not be able easily to forget or forgive this series of injustices, which have cost dearly in human and financial terms in the course of the continuation and expansion of the war.

But the tragedy of the attack on a civilian airliner and the horrible killing of innocent children and their mothers have so much affected public opinion among our people, as well as world public opinion, that we felt obliged to bring the carnage and its causes and consequences before the judgement of the international community for the sake of humanity and to safeguard international law. http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/UNDOC/PRO/N88/607/77/PDF/N8860777.pdf?OpenElement

Iran's allegations that the warship was far too technologically advanced to make such a catastrophic mistake were dismissed by the American government. When questioned about the incident while on a presidential campaign trail the following month, Bush barked, "I will never apologize for the United States of America, ever. I don't care what the facts are!"?

OCTOBER 16, 2013 ... Nearly all of these claims made by U.S. military and government officials about why Flight 655 was fired upon were lies, and the subsequent investigation was effectively one big cover-up, reports in Newsweek and by Nightline later revealed. http://web.archive.org/web/20060527221409/http:/dolphin.upenn.edu/~nrotc/ns302/20note.html http://web.archive.org/web/20130722111538/ http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/1992/07/12/sea-of-lies.html - DEAD

There had been no merchant vessel in distress and no helicopter was ever dispatched from the Vincennes, let alone fired upon. The warnings by Vincennes radio operators had not been broadcast to air traffic control frequencies. There had been no visual confirmation of an approaching or attacking aircraft. Iran Air Flight 655 - with its nearly 300 passengers aboard - was well within its flight corridor, flying comfortably at 12,000 feet and steadily climbing. It had been in the air less than seven minutes. At the time it was hit, it was gradually turning away from where the Vincennes was located. It would have landed in Dubai about twenty minutes later.

... Vincennes commander Rogers was himself known to other naval officers as especially trigger-happy. Captain Carlson, who commanded the Sides, a frigate in the same Surface Action Group as the Vincennes, later said that the Flight 655 disaster "marked the horrifying climax to Rogers' aggressiveness."  http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,968106-1,00.html

bml00

From: bml00

6/20/19

The topic is flight MH17 nothing to do with Iran Air at all

BM

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/21/19

bml00

From: bml00

6/21/19

Send berry to arrest them , he loves the Russians and trusts them so nothing to worry about , just give him an arrest warrant and he will turn up looking like Inspector Clouseau , "I have come to arrest the burmers "

These guys have little to worry about .

BM

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/4/19

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