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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/30/20

Not a problem.

Delphi often throws out a confusing glitch to keep us all on our toes once a month.

Glad we fixed it!

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

6/30/20

You do know that Trump has talked about killing American journalists and doing away with elections... right?

Either way, sounds like you're giddy about the second civil war.

This one will be complicated, however, as the enemy is your neighbour, not someone conveniently separated by a north/south border.

And you are deep in "enemy territory".

Planning to move before the shooting starts, or build a fort right there in the California desert?

Just be careful what you name it.  You don't want to piss anyone off.

RRBud

From: RRBud

6/30/20

No, I am not aware of President Trump ever having talked about killing American journalists OR doing away with our elections.  That sounds more like Leftocrap ravings as they project their own worst desires, characteristics, and fears on him.  They tend to do that, it's a mental disease with a lot of them.

And no, as a former warfighter I do NOT want any kind of civil war here in my country, though I fear the Leftists and the anarchists (Antifa, which is Communist; some members (not a majority) of BLM, who are either Communist or anarchist; and various other hate groups with Communist or Soros backing; and of course a few of our own elected Democrat congresscritters)  in their thousands are trying to djinn one up.  I don't want that kind of thing - - having seen too much combat close up and personally.  But if one comes, I will do as every combat vet will have to do, and if necessary take up arms once more in defense of our Constitution.  That's an Oath with no expiration date short of our own death, and every military person in our country has taken it.

Yes, such a civil would be complicated indeed, with a lot of stupid waste and collateral casualties - more so than in a "normal" war, if there ever is such a thing.  And where I live in California is hardly "enemy territory," because the Leftists and most wackos fear the desert and the harsh conditions under which we who live and work in this peaceful valley thrive.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/2/20

RRBud said:

That sounds more like Leftocrap ravings as they project their own worst desires, characteristics, and fears on him.

If that is how you want to characterise John Bolton...

I have no doubt that you will blame the war on the left, as the left will blame the right.

It all comes down to whether you love your country MORE than you hate Democrats.

And vice versa.

RRBud

From: RRBud

7/2/20

You know perfectly well that my comment was specifically and only about the allegations that President Trump was talking about killing children as part of his own favored agenda.  It isn't, and anyone who would try to make that allegation is falling into line with the Leftists in this country and worldwide who truly do wish he'd do or say something like that just so they would have some justification for their fanatic hate of him.

Bolton had nothing to do with that, and my opinion of Mr. Bolton is NOT a good one - and he was NOT part of the original post where I was commenting on the Left's hate of and their projection of their own worst wishes and behaviors onto President Trump.  Do try to stay on track, here.

And of course I will blame the Left in the event of civil war, because they have been yammering about starting one for AT LEAST the past 50 years.  It's folks like me, who have actually confronted Communism up close and personally, using military weapons, who want most to avoid the civil war the Left seeks.  You don't seem to grasp just how horrible civil war is - - we do!

And yes, I love my country far more than I dislike our Communist and other tyrannical enemies, both foreign and domestic.  Which is why, much though I hate war, I would even at my age be quite willing to take up arms once again in the defense of what this country is supposed to be.  Again, this is something you cannot possibly understand, your not being a U.S. Citizen and a one-time warfighter.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/3/20

RRBud said:

You know perfectly well that my comment was specifically and only about the allegations that President Trump was talking about killing children as part of his own favored agenda.

I didn't say killing children.

At least I don't think I did.  He talked about killing journalists.

I will double check after I post this.

RRBud said:

And yes, I love my country far more than I dislike our Communist and other tyrannical enemies, both foreign and domestic. Which is why, much though I hate war, I would even at my age be quite willing to take up arms once again in the defense of what this country is supposed to be. Again, this is something you cannot possibly understand, your not being a U.S. Citizen and a one-time warfighter.

Sorry, but you just proved the answer is no.

You would rather see your country in flames, than let go of your hatred of "the left".

That is not loving your country.

Another angle would be do you love your children more than you hate your enemy?

Because they are the ones who will have to clean up and rebuild after the Boomers get one more war in.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/3/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

You do know that Trump has talked about killing American journalists and doing away with elections... right?

Yeah, I never mentioned children.

RRBud

From: RRBud

7/3/20

Sorry, I mis-read that.  Some of our local Leftist maniac rabble-rousers have begun to make the charge that he hates children - when he doesn't - and I think that I read what I'd just heard, rather than what you wrote.  Again, sincerest apologies.

As for our journalists - - well, some of them don't deserve the name, being instead commentators and rabble-rousers, not legitimate reporters after the pattern of truly great ones.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

7/4/20

Apology accepted, and carefully noted that you were free with one.  Not many have that amount of character.

As for the media?  I absolutely agree!

Take the BLM protests, for example.

Peaceful protests are boring.  No one wants to turn on the news for that.

Violence and civil unrest is what wins ratings!

And I agree that Trump is unique in that he he the most mercilessly bullied president we've ever had.  And I have to take into account all the racist crap Obama had to endure.

The left-wing media are ecstatic to jump on top of his latest gaffe.  And there are sooooo many.

They are feeding the divide, because let's face it -  an American civil war is MUST SEE TV!!


Edit to add:  I need to know that you do not categorise anyone who works at OAN as a "journalist".

RRBud

From: RRBud

7/4/20

Good morning Jen -

As for the apology?  I made a mistake; any honest or honorable person has the absolute duty to recognize and admit when they've made a mistake, and attempt to clear up misunderstandings.  That many people do not, is unfortunate in the extreme.

Our media here in the USA is largely controlled by "leftists" - in fact, Communist sympathizers and advocates who are at the same time greedy to make ever more money.  Too many of them truly do want to see our Republic destroyed, and our form of government replaced by a Communist slave State.  Oh, they deny that - - but when listening to the discussions between people in the business their political agenda quickly becomes all too obvious, and many openly admit they yearn for Socialism to destroy capitalism completely - - and to see our Constitution torn up and replaced by Marxist thought.  IMO, that may be a major reason that the major media in our country seldom if ever criticizes ANTIFA (an admitted Communist organization, regardless of the fact that they are practicing Fascist tactics and behaviors.)

Their Communist and Socialist leanings and beliefs are no surprise, because for at least the past 50 years the educational system in the USA has been increasingly taken over by American Communists - - people who truly do not appreciate the evil of the system they advocate.  In their mission to discredit the history of the USA and paint it as the root of all evil in our world, they also paint Socialism and its ultimate expression, Communism, as good things - - but for those of us who have literally fought Communism in the jungles of southeast Asia and other places, recognize the lie and the agenda behind it.  And we are NOT amused.

We took an Oath to defend our Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic, and that Oath has no expiration date short of our own death.  That many of us are no longer in the military services of the USA makes no difference; we are not released from that Oath just because we are no longer active warfighters wearing our Nation's uniform.  Fortunately, there are a lot of us, and if necessary, we'll do what we have to in order to preserve our Constitution and our Nation.  Whatever that may require.

But we don't want to have to.  That's something many people don't understand.

At any rate, no - I can't call the vast majority of the talking heads on national "news" television or radio, "journalists."  On the other hand, neither do I call most of the folks on OANN "journalists," although there are a couple of truly competent investigative journalists who work for that network.  Many people only tune in to OANN to listen to Graham Ledger or Liz Wheeler - who are unashamedly partisan commentators, and make no claim to anything else.  Otherwise, that network is no more and no less biased than the American broadcast networks ABC, CBS, and NBC.  They merely have a pro-America and pro-Trump bias.

I agree that President Trump is not any kind of skilled politician in the political arena.  He's a rather successful businessman who cut his teeth in the truly brutal New York construction business, learned from his mistakes, and kept getting better at that game.  He's not the smooth, polished, devious and self-serving liar the politicians in our country have become, so to them he's the enemy and has to be destroyed.  News flash - - it's those politicians who are the mortal enemy of everybody else in the whole world, and who have to be eradicated right along with the Communism they so often espouse.

The rest of us, unless under the bad influence of extremists of whatever sort, can usually get along pretty well.

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