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Started 6/1/18 by PTG (anotherPTG); 17168 views.
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Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

12/2/19

Even though it happened in America...


BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

12/3/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Altamont was the logical conclusion to a year that saw the band overwhelmed by its own arrogance, obsessed with money, while devouring anyone who came within its orbit.

I'd have thought that was a classic of vicious anti-British propaganda, a conspiracy theory cooked up 50 years after the event to cash in on the anniversary.

The real story is that the Stones had been cheated by a notorious American promoter:

... Rather than offering financial advice and maximizing his clients' income, as a business manager normally would, Klein set up what he called "buy/sell agreements" where a company that Klein owned became an intermediary between his client and the record label, owning the rights to the music, manufacturing the records, selling them to the record label, and paying royalties and cash advances to the client.

Although Klein greatly increased his clients' incomes [Berry says -> lying self-promotion]  he also enriched himself, sometimes without his clients' knowledge.[3] (The Rolling Stones's $1.25 million advance from the Decca Records label in 1965, for one glaring example, was deposited into a company that Klein had established, and the fine print of the contract did not require Klein to release it for 20 years.)[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Klein

Even the article explains how Allan Klein forced them into this disastrous concert.

... It's hard to know precisely what the Rolling Stones thought might happen when they invited 300,000 people to a "free concert" at the Altamont Speedway.

East of San Francisco, it was remote, inhospitable, with few facilities. Security would be provided by the Hells Angels.

Mick Jagger loftily suggested the gathering would "create a microcosmic society that would set an example for how the rest of America can behave at large gatherings".

How wrong he was, unless accusations of murder and mayhem were his template.

Four people died, including a young black man named Meredith Hunter, killed by a knife-wielding Hells Angel just a few feet from the stage where the Stones were playing.

In the immediate aftermath of Altamont, many were blamed, including the speedway owner, the promoter and the Hells Angels.

Asked about it later, Jagger said "it's just so horrible" — and he was right — but according to a new book, Rolling Stones '69 by Patrick Humphries, Altamont was the logical conclusion to a year that saw the band overwhelmed by its own arrogance, obsessed with money, while devouring anyone who came within its orbit.

bml00

From: bml00

12/3/19

Agents offer their clients opportunities , their clients along with their various legal teams and accountants make their own minds up .

Klein was representing some of the Worlds greatest talents , he may have been a tough cookie but that goes with being an agent he however was there behind the Beatles , Phil Spectre and of course the Stones - very few people can look at their books and say these were my clients

When agents have form and can show they can perform their doors never stop knocking

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

12/3/19

bml00 said:

Agents offer their clients opportunities

Klein was a white supremacist.

No surprise you'd defend him cheating the foreigners who want to visit and entertain his countrymen.

However, you're in the opposite bind, having to pay to get these artists to play in Israel!

bml00

From: bml00

12/3/19

Now we have a conspiracy theory - Klein ( a Jew) was a white supremacist he represented Sam Cooke and Chubby Checker to name two global stars of the day both who were colored (there are many more)

ALSO note the reference to Israel which is utterly totally off topic - 3 in one day

BM

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

12/3/19

bml00 said:

Now we have a conspiracy theory - Klein ( a Jew) 

A further classic piece of evidence that you want Jews hated.

bml00 said:

he represented Sam Cooke and Chubby Checker to name two global stars of the day both who were colored (there are many more)

Same as the Theatre Owners Booking Association, or T.O.B.A. ... Often referred to by the black performers as Tough on Black Artists (or, by Gertrude "Ma" Rainey, as Tough on Black Asses) https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Theatre_Owners_Booking_Association
 

bml00

From: bml00

12/3/19

I leave the idiot to you , in one day whilst you blinked he messed up everything - he accused Klein (the agent for the stones of being a white supremacist ) of course he has not proven a thing except his own stupidity

BM

PS - TODAY EVERY TOPIC GONE BECAUSE OF BERRY

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

12/3/19

bml00 said:

he accused Klein (the agent for the stones of being a white supremacist

Klein ripped off non-American performers like the Stones.

Then blackmailed them into performing wildly dangerous gigs.

Just as you blackmail artists into appearing in Israel, don't you?

bml00

From: bml00

12/3/19

Your much admired poster has as usual made the most dimwitted statements and of course will never be able to substantiate a word

BM

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

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