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Is North Korea a nuclear threat?   Asia

Started 6/13/18 by OSarge (DD214_98); 57415 views.
bml00

From: bml00 

7/6/19

Money being the root of all evil but in this case it will be investment in NK that will ultimately one release NK from its slavery .

The Giant NK army is jut another way of keeping them off the street and complaining ,in any standoff with the US they would be powerless

BM 

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

7/7/19

BerrySteph said:

Korea can be re-unified with or without bloodshed - which do you prefer?

That's a stupid question, and I'm insulted that you think I would prefer the former.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

7/7/19

bml00 said:

Money being the root of all evil but in this case it will be investment in NK that will ultimately one release NK from its slavery .

Agree.

And wouldn't it be great to have a Trump Tower in Pyongyang!

Well, great for Trump at least.

bml00

From: bml00 

7/7/19

Unlike some, I have no axe to grind with Trump , he is trying and it is better to have tried and failed than never try at all.

If getting a Trump Tower gets us a step closer to finding some arrangement with JKU who cares , small potatoes .

bm

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

7/7/19

Agree.

There would also be heavy scrutiny over the working conditions of the builders.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

7/7/19

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph) 

7/10/19

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

7/11/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

That's a stupid question, and I'm insulted that you think I would prefer the former.

Too bad that others have been less cautious than you, openly calling for the regime to fall in chaos and suffering.

We have a record of this, devastating Iraq and Syria with our interference.

There is a great deal of support for re-unification in South Korea - but they're a land under occupation, nobody dare speak out. 

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

7/11/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The Australian student released last week after being detained in North Korea bats away Pyongyang's claims he admitted to spying acts in the hermit kingdom.

North Korea operates a system little different from the one we operated in WW2.

Any attempt at unofficial negotiations will be silenced.

This is "Friendly Fire, the Secret War between the Allies" 2005 Lynn Picknett, Clive Prince, Stephen Prior with additional research by Robert Brydon (d. 2003).

p.26 ... in May 1941 [when Hess parachuted into Scotland, 8 miles from the people expecting him] the pre-war 'peace group' was trying to force matters to a head 

... The more extreme pro-peace element behind the British end of the Hess plan appears to have been in disarray ... how did Churchill manage this incredible turnaround? 

There was the threat of Regulation 18b, the draconian wartime law that allowed the detention without trial of anyone deemed by the government - meaning Churchill - to be a threat to the war effort. Within weeks of Churchill coming to power, the British Fascist leader Sir Oswald Mosley and 149 others were imprisoned under 18b for the duration. Such action could be taken against anyone found to 'have or have had associations with any persons concerned in the government of ... any Power with which his Majesty is at war'.16 No wonder those who had actively conspired with the Deputy Fuhrer were quaking in their shoes.

... Very few of that coalition of vested interests were actively sympathetic to Nazism or Fascism, simply believing it was in Britain's interests and - a factor largely forgotten today - those of its Empire, to reach a compromise with Hitler, and that Churchill's obsession with fighting on to certain victory or defeat was condemned to disaster. To them, Russia was the greater threat.... many had advocated staying out of any war altogether and forcing Germany and the USSR into conflict ... the position of the Duke of Kent, Chamberlain - and MI6's Sir Stewart Menzies. 

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph 

7/11/19

PS - the North operates this for obvious reasons - any successful attempt to bypass the leadership will result in the entire government facing terrible consequences (totally different from Churchill, who only needed to be pushed aside).

The South operates the same, only needing to make sure that any money spent on re-unification projects is wasted and shut down by government and stolen - eg the Kaesong Industrial Park.

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