South Africa achieved independence without any violence.

Meanwhile, you don't do facts otherwise you'd not be still defending Iron Sieve, 4 years after the whole project was shut down and the director frog-marched from his desk.

Night liar stick to a topic 

BM

I don´t see North Korea as a real threat. In theory craz Kim could launch a missile, but he is not that crazy, but between him and Trump, this is a bogus issue, both using their positions to bolster their base support at home -- just a distraction.

RGoss99 said:

In theory craz Kim could launch a missile, but he is not that crazy

Nothing crazy about it.

The US will attack North Korea and burn millions more to a crisp unless they can retaliate.

Not sure if I've asked you this before - when was the very last time the US attacked any nation that could retaliate?

Kim is slowly being bought to his knees without a bullet fired , there will be no war why fight when there is no need , he cannot fight the US he knows it , his Generals to a man know it and they also know that to retain power his only hope is via the negotiating table with the US

Every drought every hungry NK will bring him ever closer to finding a way out of his mire

BM

Ithink we are agreement, no you have not asked befor, ut I think never.

Yes, brought to his knees by our standard, but, but when people have the feeling of nothing to loose, their reaction is often no reaction, because any act has two possibilities, improvement of their condition, or worsening of it. when people are that down, they usually jus suck their thumb.

RGoss99 said:

Ithink we are agreement, no you have not asked befor, ut I think never.

In fairness to Americans, there has been one such case ever.

It was 207 years ago when the Brits were busy elsewhere putting down a European dictator, Napoleon.

This contrasts rather with some other nations who eg took on the Germans twice just last century.

Even Argentina could surely retaliate when we took them on 8,000 miles from home.

I was NOT comparing our standards to theirs , there is a limit which they can absorb and accept and with every crop failure every draught so the situation worsens .

BM

Yes, brought to his knees by our standard, but, but when people have the feeling of nothing to loose, their reaction is often no reaction, because any act has two possibilities, improvement of their condition, or worsening of it. when people are that down, they usually jus suck their thumb.

The US (and in another place they've told me this) seeks to take to North Korea the benefits they took to Iraq and Libya.

Government collaps, millions of refugees, chaos and suffering.