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Iran   Africa and the Middle East

Started 9/19/18 by Di (amina046); 64211 views.
BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/17/19

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The US President says he hopes the country is not heading to war with Iran, after the Middle East state reportedly warned Iraqi militias to ready for conflict.

You do realise that we're in a 1914 or 1939 moment, where an aggressive government is about to launch unprovoked aggression on another sovereign state? Trump is far, far more unpredictable and irrational than the Kaiser or Hitler.

China and India (both nuclear armed) might be forced to protect their source of oil and Russia could very easily be drawn in.

Iran's retaliation will presumably be against Gulf oil installations and tankers.

Our supermarket shelves could be emptied and not re-filled for a generation.

bml00

From: bml00

5/17/19

I believe the bellicose words from both side will not result in war , Iran will not stand an iota of a chance and they know it , Trump for all his bluster also has no real need for a war he will ultimately succeed .

Iran is basing everything they do on the hope that come 2020 Trump will be removed from power - he wont and they will be by then so far into the corner that they will be facing a disaster as their society will cease to be able to fully function as their economy will have collapsed

Ships will stopped on the high seas , their ports today their highways and by ways are all under surveillance , from within and from without they are being silently and effectively bought to their knees

BM

bml00

From: bml00

5/17/19

Russia is on board with the US you imbecile it is a moment both leaders have mutual agreement , India having to protect what exactly uhm their shortfalls will be taken up by the Arab/Gulf states and the same for the Chinese - there will be only one winner and no bullets are likely to fly

BM

Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

5/18/19

Your mother should have washed your mouth with soap!

i can only imagine that you are an insecure and short man who needs to use insults to build up his self esteem.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/18/19

I do my best not to aggravate his condition. 

Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/25/19

Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

5/25/19

They never learn! Cornering Germany in the Treaty of Versailles 1]

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/25/19

They never learn! Cornering Germany in the Treaty of Versailles

Seems to me we've learned nothing.

Of the many provisions in the treaty, one of the most important and controversial required "Germany [to] accept the responsibility of Germany and her allies for causing all the loss and damage" during the war (the other members of the Central Powers signed treaties containing similar articles). This article, Article 231, later became known as the War Guilt clause. The treaty required Germany to disarm, make ample territorial concessions, and pay reparations to certain countries that had formed the Entente powers. In 1921 the total cost of these reparations was assessed at 132 billion marks (then $31.4 billion or £6.6 billion, roughly equivalent to US$442 billion or UK£284 billion in 2019). At the time economists, notably John Maynard Keynes (a British delegate to the Paris Peace Conference), predicted that the treaty was too harsh—a "Carthaginian peace"—and said the reparations figure was excessive and counter-productive, views that, since then, have been the subject of ongoing debate by historians and economists. On the other hand, prominent figures on the Allied side, such as French Marshal Ferdinand Foch, criticized the treaty for treating Germany too leniently.

The result of these competing and sometimes conflicting goals among the victors was a compromise that left no one satisfied, and, in particular, Germany was neither pacifiednor conciliated, nor was it permanently weakened. The problems that arose from the treaty would lead to the Locarno Treaties, which improved relations between Germany and the other European powers, and the re-negotiation of the reparation system resulting in the Dawes Plan, the Young Plan, and the indefinite postponement of reparations at the Lausanne Conference of 1932.

The aim of us islanders (taken up enthusiastically by the US, nearly an island, and Ausralia) is to permanently oppress and impoverish the continentals.

Germany, Russia, China, Iran etc.

Not that I have any objection of course.

However, if you accept the above, then you'll recognise that an expanded Israel will (in a century or five?) pose as much - or maybe much more -  threat to us as any of the current continental powers.

We will end up at war with Israel - and they're much more reckless than the Russians or Chinese could possibly be.

Di (amina046)

From: Di (amina046)

5/27/19

bml00

From: bml00

5/27/19

Iran will not be invaded and its proxies Hezbollah and Hamas have to think 20 times before committing to war - Hezbollah cannot afford to see Lebanon reduced to rubble for involving itself in a war for which it has no part and the same for Hamas .

The US is bringing Iran to its knees very well so far and not a bullet fired , the Iranian can hope Trump will be defeated in the next election or they are already secretly making overtures to talk and that is the best likleyhood  - jaw not war will end this stand off

BM

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