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The debate on Climate Change   General Confusion

Started 7/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 116016 views.
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2/13/20

Opinion


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2/18/20

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2/22/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

The good news? Some airlines are taking positive steps. The bad news? Even the best airlines are not doing enough.

They're on our media soothingly claiming to be making big strides.

But they absolutely will not talk about targets.

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2/28/20

Fact Check


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2/28/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

A petition signed by over 500 people worldwide (including 75 Australians) asserts there is no climate emergency. They call themselves scientists and professionals, but who are they? RMIT ABC Fact Check investigates. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-27/who-are--scientists-professionals-who-say-no-climate-emergency/11734966

This one is so far from being a "scientist" or doing anything "peer-reviewed" that he appears to be unemployable except as a hasbarist:

Australia's representative, Viv Forbes, has been writing sceptical articles for over a decade. He is the administrator of long-running climate sceptic blog Carbon Sense.

He is also the executive director of climate sceptic organisation the Saltbush Club, which was constituted in November 2018 to "change the climate of public opinion, thus changing the political agenda".

A document listing  the "founding members" of the Saltbush Club, says of Mr Forbes:

"He has spent his working life in the resource and pastoral industries of northern Australia, for five years as a government field geologist and then in private industry.

He has held almost every job from rouseabout and field assistant to Financial Analysis Manager to Chairman of the board, in metals, oil, gas and coal, and focused on feasibility studies, investment analysis, mine development, lecturing and writing.

He has been self-employed for about 35 years."

This man is better but still of dubious credibility:

Guus Berkhout, from the Netherlands, is one of the founders of climate sceptic organisation, Clintel, which was founded this year and is the progenitor of the petition.

On his website, Mr Berkout lists professional experience as a professor of geophysics at TU Delft, ending in 2016. His biography also details his time working for petroleum company Shell in the 1960s and 1970s.

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3/1/20

Then there are all the ones who work for mining companies...

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3/1/20

A composite of satellite imagery shows a map of China with high air pollution and another with a decreased pollution.


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3/1/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Then there are all the ones who work for mining companies...

Our government has also slipped rapidly into the hands of the very wealthy.

"Who is Philip May? Theresa May's husband and closest advisor". Business Insider. Retrieved 5 February 2018.

He was named in the Panama Papers in 2016.[15. "May told to prove she has 'nothing to hide' after 10,000 sign petition to declare offshore interests"Archived from the original on 1 January 2018.] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_May

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3/3/20

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3/30/20

Just to be clear: The experts consulted for this article were unanimous: there is no indication coronavirus has been directly connected to climate change.


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