Confused malcontents swilling Chardonnay while awaiting the Zombie Apocalypse.
4985 messages in 110 discussions
Latest 4/29/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph)
587 messages in 12 discussions
Latest Jan-20 by ElDotardo
17031 messages in 736 discussions
Latest Jan-17 by David Finkel(ish) (mahjong54)
Latest Dec-31 by I Want Flowers (LiberalDem)
Latest Dec-29 by I Want Flowers (LiberalDem)
Latest Dec-26 by Di (amina046)
Latest Dec-25 by CamGeary
1689 messages in 106 discussions
Latest Jan-14 by CamGeary
Latest Jan-8 by I Want Flowers (LiberalDem)
Latest Dec-24 by I Want Flowers (LiberalDem)
5805 messages in 163 discussions
Latest Jan-11 by NISSY (NISSY2)
647 messages in 37 discussions
Latest Jan-7 by katiek2
7264 messages in 176 discussions
Latest Jan-7 by Di (amina046)
9330 messages in 64 discussions
Latest Jan-6 by Di (amina046)
Latest Jan-4 by NISSY (NISSY2)
Latest Dec-26 by Di (amina046)
1972 messages in 83 discussions
Latest Jan-2 by Di (amina046)
Latest Dec-31 by NISSY (NISSY2)
Latest Dec-25 by Di (amina046)
4803 messages in 200 discussions
Latest Dec-30 by NISSY (NISSY2)
1687 messages in 51 discussions
Latest Dec-25 by I Want Flowers (LiberalDem)
Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:
Glad you're okay.
You are so sweet.
Still have the hots for me, huh?
Turns out you're not as bad as some who frequent Delphi.
I fear I took you for granted.
Last year was the second or third warmest on record behind 2016, and the hottest without an extra dose of heat caused by an El Nino event in the Pacific Ocean, the United Nations says.
Average surface temperatures in 2017 were 1.1 degree above pre-industrial times, creeping towards 1.5C, the most ambitious limit for global warming set by almost 200 nations under the 2015 Paris climate agreement.
The agreement has been weakened by a plan by US President Donald Trump, who doubts mainstream scientific findings that warming is driven by man-made greenhouse gases, to pull out.
The UN's World Meteorological Organisation (WMO) said 2017 was indistinguishable from 2015 as the second or third warmest year behind 2016, and made 2017 "the warmest year without an El Nino" in records dating back to the late 19th century.
Temperatures in both 2016 and 2015 were lifted by an El Nino, a natural event which can disrupt weather patterns worldwide every few years and releases heat from the tropical Pacific Ocean into the atmosphere.
The WMO said 17 of the warmest 18 years since records began in the 19th century have now happened since 2000, confirming a warming trend driven by manmade greenhouse gases.
"We're in a long-term warming trend despite the ups and downs you get on an annual basis, even a decadal basis," said Gavin Schmidt, of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, whose data is used by the WMO.
"When even the 'colder' years are rewriting the warmest year record books, we know we have a problem," said Professor Dave Reay, chair in carbon management at the University of Edinburgh.
Among extreme weather events last year, the Caribbean and the United States suffered a battering from hurricanes, the Arctic ended 2017 with the least sea ice for mid-winter and tropical coral reefs suffered from high water temperatures.
Oooooo, the UN, eh? Well then, I suppose the issue is settled, right?
What do you honestly, personally believe is happening to the planet?
Why are we experiencing so many extremes in the weather if the climate is not changing?
Or are you saying that none of it is real? We are NOT experiencing strange weather phenomenon at all?
Are you saying that all pollution is harmless? No, of course not.
You don't have to agree on Climate Change consensus to agree that pollution is bad for the planet.
Burning any fuel releases chemicals into the atmosphere.
So as "costly" and "inconvenient" as renewable energy infrastructure is, in the long run I feel it is worth it.
What I believe has been plainly stated ad infinitum. Climate changes, sometimes precipitously - ever hear of the ICE AGE? It has done so over geologic time, and this natural cycle continues apace and without regard to the bad choices of us puny humans or our laudable efforts to reduce pollution.
What I also believe is that the AGW hoax is a scheme to attack freedom and replace it with the control of our lives by an all knowing STATE.
It's baloney, despite what the . . .Experts say
Yes, the climate changes regardless of the species who inhabit the planet.
But to say that humans bear no responsibility flies in the face of the overwhelming evidence that supports it.
Look at India.
This is Zabol, in Iran
So what's the overwhelming difference?
One place has tonnes of PEOPLE, the other doesn't.
I don't understand how this evidence is (in your mind) wrong.
The pollution is measured. It exists. You can SEE it.
The ice age happened because of orbital fluctuations that affected the temperature of the planet.
The climate changes if the overall planetary temperature changes.
If we raise the temperature by cooking the planet and pumping more CO2 and methane into the atmosphere than is normal, then the climate will change.
And we will bear some responsibility for that.
There is nothing we can do to outright STOP climate change. But we can do our best to NOT exacerbate it.
Pollution is not climate.
There was a hole in the ozone layer caused by CFCs.
People stopped using CFCs.
The hole is closing.
The heath and stability of the atmosphere of the planet is directly related to our protection from the sun's heat and radiation.
If you damage that atmosphere, you endanger the planet.
Pollution damages the atmosphere.
It is actually simpler than you believe.