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Started 7/11/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 33871 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

May-19

This is an example of a big swing


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May-19

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

May-19

This post is simply a news item. Your decision to post it, as opposed to some other time sends a message, which I suggests is a passive-aggressive crit of China. China does not owe anything to Australian barley farmers, so why should it care if they feel that their state is unfairly treating them.  

Aside, I am against embargos as a matter of principle, because I feel the <<PEOPLE>> benefit, as opposed to specific business and political interests. The would should be one market, one which Trump has upset not just in deals with America but spinoff, sort of domino theory in other countries such as Australia.

If this is a crit of China, which it seems to be an exension off, why not tell both sides of the story and inform us why you think China is not justified in this action. For example is this possibly related to the U.S. tariffs against selling soy beans to China which is hurting U.S. armers.

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May-19

... reading further into your URL, I think I see what is going on. It indicates that China has no objection to a European investigation, but feels that Australia following the U.S. and no other country is n insult when only the U.S. and Australia in their request for an "independent" (what ever that means, but probably U.S. approved) investigation, in stead of the structure already set up by WHO. Note that Trump is slamming WHO, not for any proven facts, but probably a coverup for his and the U.S. fault in the matter. Australlia, in this case is acting like a wannabe player in a U.S. game.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

May-20

Since Australia began calling for an inquiry into Covid, China has halted imports of Beef, referred to my country as "Gum on their shoe" and raised tariffs on barley to 80%.

They have also included threats to strangle other areas of our economy (Chinese university students are a big cash cow here).

It is a good wakeup call that has proven to us that we are too heavily reliant on trade with China.

Incidentally, the barley fiasco goes further, in that all the barley we were trading with them is now being sourced from the US.  Given that the US actually DO destroy crops just to control prices (this is the false charge that China is throwing at us in order to justify their actions), it is a great way to throw a spanner into our relationship with the US.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

May-20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Federal Agriculture Minister David Littleproud says Australia is not in a trade war with China and will not retaliate over the economic superpower's decision to set an 80 per cent tariff on barley imports, effectively ending farmers' access to the Chinese market.

Well, someone got some sense. 

Is Australia still sending warships to harass Chinese shipping?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

May-20

RGoss99 said:

Note that Trump is slamming WHO, not for any proven facts, but probably a coverup for his and the U.S. fault in the matter. Australlia, in this case is acting like a wannabe player in a U.S. game.

Trump is demanding that WHO force China to live up to its "transparency obligations" - purely to cover up the fact that the US is never going to sign up to any treaty agreement that allows the WHO to inspect anything.

Remember, the US has launched biological warfare on China's neighbour and border areas (may more than one) and is never going to allow their own multiple anthrax friendly fire incidents in Washington.

RGoss99

From: RGoss99

May-20

Not only that but in more intelligent times the U.S. was an instigator of the world court, but never joined it. Also underemined it -- example why are Saddam and Ben Laden dead? Reason because a fair public trial would be too embarrasing forthe U.S.

Parallel to that. Trump won the election, got his minion as AG, his guy on the Supreme court, so why isn´t Hillary in Jail yet.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

May-20

RGoss99 said:

Not only that but in more intelligent times the U.S. was an instigator of the world court, but never joined it. Also underemined it -- example why are Saddam and Ben Laden dead? Reason because a fair public trial would be too embarrasing forthe U.S. Parallel to that. 

Yup, right on all three counts. The World Court condemned the US over terrorism in Nicaragua - the US carried right on doing it. Saddam had been a CIA killer and then a puppet (three times told he could invade Kuwait) so couldn't be allowed to testify - while OBL had next to nothing to do with 911, a trial would have proved that and the real culprits punished.

RGoss99 said:

Trump won the election, got his minion as AG, his guy on the Supreme court, so why isn´t Hillary in Jail yet.

Trump has gone after enough people to have intimidated everyone.

There's still a danger this November election will be bloodily contested.

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