I will let you be offended by the idiot . If Monash was not an Australian  Hero then who was?

BerrySteph said:

So he was 100% in favour of beating robbing and killing natives for their land by settlers!

Everybody was.  Right up until the 1960's.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Everybody was.  Right up until the 1960's.

False.

We fought WW2 to finally put an end to "Right of Conquest" and the mass-cancellation of citizenship on grounds of faith (or nationality).

And that's what we wrote into the Charter of the United Nations. 

A document and a membership that Israel begged to sign up to and join. (And swore to comply with two crucial resolutions just passed by the UN).

Nor is it the case that anyone supported it after 1919 - other than the Zionists "In 1927, he [Monash] became president of the newly founded Zionist Federation of Australia and New Zealand.[50]". 

The history of Monash's enthusiasm for gross human rights violation (unless you tell me that they were entirely understandable in Austrialia?) may be rather less significant than the question "Why do you support beating robbing and killing people from their homes today"?

I'm talking about Australia and the land, and children, stolen from the Aboriginal people.

Not false.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I'm talking about Australia and the land, and children, stolen from the Aboriginal people.

One could make a case that the Ozzies, over the period since 1945, were the second most evil society and nation and regime in the world. I believe they've almost entirely pulled themselves out of that and, while there are big problems (landless black families abandoned by society) they're almost entirely operating on humanitarian policies.

And/or you can argue that Australia was the third last place to operate apartheid.

What I don't understand is why you, as a person, don't see (or, more likely, refuse to admit you can see) what a terrible cancer we've created in the Middle East and the importance of stopping it metastizing further.

It appears the World see's Israel differently than shit for brains

BM

People smuggling is a growth industry and the more desperate your punters the more they pay .

BM

bml00 said:

People smuggling is a growth industry and the more desperate your punters the more they pay .

Few of them as nasty as these people - the 1960 film of the book documents how the Zionists garnered sympathy for their political aims by sailing their children into serious danger.

Nothing humanitarian about it, none of the displaced persons (half of them orphans, a considerable mystery in itself) wanted to go to Palestine - they all wanted to go to the US, but American Zionists had arranged to stop that.

"The saga of the Exodus is strewn with the eyes of these orphans," writes the biographer of the ship's captain in "Crossroads to Israel". These orphans "are the real story of the Exodus." Uris tells the story of how Jewish orphans were placed on a boat "ready to fall apart." The engine room was loaded with dynamite, the Zionists threatening to "blow ourselves up" if the British fired on the ship.

"If the Zionists are so sincere," the British wondered, "why are they endangering the lives of three hundred innocent children?" To which the Zionist hero of Uris's novel, Ari Ben Canaan, retorted: "I am astounded at Whitehall's crocodile tears over our victimizing of children. ... If Whitehall is so concerned about the welfare of these children, then I challenge them to throw open the gates of Caraolos [displaced person camp]. It is nothing more or less than a concentration camp. People are kept behind barbed wire at machine-gun point with insufficient food, water and medical care." (Sound like Gaza to anyone?)

Next, Ari Ben Canaan put the orphans on board the Exodus on a hunger strike: "Anyone who passes out will be placed on deck for the British to look at .... Do you think I like starving a bunch of orphans? Give me something else to fight with. Give me something to shoot at those tanks and those destroyers." (He'd make a good spokesman for Hamas). After depicting scenes of the starving children, Uris has Ari Ben Canaan issue the final challenge that "ten volunteers a day" among the Jewish orphans "will commit suicide on the bridge of the ship in full view of the British garrison." https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=qc6Tn-C2B5UC&pg=PA118

Now then - tell me when Iraqis (or Palestinians) have ever behaved like that?

Answer - even individual Iraqlis (or Palestinians) have never treated children the way that Zionists did in 1947.

And as they continue to treat them right up to the present day, deliberately forcing them to live in war-zones!