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jra2750

From: jra2750

Jan-1

People have different values so I don't think preserving Values is a reason to  go to war.  The only reason 2 go 2 war is if One's country has been INVADED...not threatened but INVADED.  Otherwise diplomacy/negotiations is the way  to  go IMO.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jan-1

jra2750 said:

The only reason 2 go 2 war is if One's country has been INVADED...not threatened but INVADED. 

Israel - and BM it would seem - are committed to Eternal Conflict.

And its been working for them - already done such immense damage to Lebanon that those in power only want to rob what remains and leave. (The Orthodox Church in Jerusalem doing the same thing for the same reason - selling off its land and stealing the money).

Expanding into Syria currently while it destroys still more of what was still working there.

bml00

From: bml00

Jan-2

Israel at its narrowest is some 25 miles and we have NO STRATEGIC depth , we cannot wait for the enemy to approach we need to take the fight to the enemy before they reach our borders - we have our backs to the sea .

Self preservation is a pretty good reason and most people seem to forget there are some 8 million Israelis and about 330,000,000 Arabs there is NO ROOM FOR ERROR permissible , history has shown that when we are (Israel) is threatened it is reasonable to assume that the threat will sooner or later be followed through.

Finally JAW JAW is far better than WAR WAR but you prepare for the worse and hope for the best

Happy New Year

BM

ps - The IDF Eternal Strife doctrine is based upon having a region which is always in turmoil with NO ARAB STATE having social peace , Egypt , Jordan , Syria , Lebanon , Iran , Yemen , Iraq even Saudi Arabia are all under threat from both within and without , the requirement of having a military ready and able to deal with multi fronted issues is an absolute for a country smaller than the state of New York or smaller than Wales etc

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jan-2

bml00 said:

The IDF Eternal Strife doctrine is based upon having a region which is always in turmoil with NO ARAB STATE having social peace , Egypt , Jordan , Syria , Lebanon , Iran , Yemen , Iraq even Saudi Arabia are all under threat from both within and without , the requirement of having a military ready and able to deal with multi fronted issues is an absolute for a country smaller than the state of New York or smaller than Wales etc

Good description of a cancer in the region, surely!

And a 180deg change from the soothing words that the Zionists used to come out with.

Even BM was still declaring he wanted peace until recently. eg:

israel never sought war,in the declaration made on the day of the announcement of the state of israel,ben gurion asked for peace with our neighbours.

our ambiguous nuclear situation is not the issue, with or without nuclear capability we are still seeking peace, we have nothing to gain by eternal conflict

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jan-2

bml00 said:

The IDF Eternal Strife doctrine is based upon having a region which is always in turmoil with NO ARAB STATE having social peace , Egypt , Jordan , Syria , Lebanon , Iran , Yemen , Iraq even Saudi Arabia are all under threat

All that money spent on hasbara declaring that Israel wants peace.

Then you abandon 70 years of good work with your anger!

jra2750

From: jra2750

Jan-3

A sad sad story.  All around.

bml00

From: bml00

Jan-3

This is the 2nd time in History the Jews have returned to their land , the 1st time ended with the Romans not sure how this one will end but the bang will be louder

BM

jra2750

From: jra2750

Jan-5

Apparently the thought never occurs that the world remains skeptical about Israel and the fact that Bibi Netanyahu remains the man in charge...his main mission is to destroy Iran...and Iran's main mission is to destroy Israel.   The USA needs Israel as an Island in the middle of a burning cauldron of nations most of whom hate Israel.  

Meanwhile back at the WH Donald Trump now spends most of his day in his private office Upstairs and guess who's next door?  His SIL Jared Kushner - who is the unappointed Sec. of State and who is very  chummy  with Netanyahu and the Saudi prince.  This trio - Trump/Kushner/Netanyahu R the primary  villains in the Soleimani story.  Count on it.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

Jan-6

jra2750 said:

Iran's main mission is to destroy Israel. 

Iran has never attacked any other nation (unless they rocketed Saudi oil infrastructure?) and previously only said that Iserael would disappear from the pages of history.

Meanwhile Israel attacks all of its neighbours and, in 2011, declared for "Eternal Conflict".

jra2750 said:

The USA needs Israel as an Island in the middle of a burning cauldron of nations most of whom hate Israel.

The US needs Israel like a hole in the head. It seeks to be hated.

As you can discover for yourself - ask BM or any of the Zionists what borders it has.

All this talk of it not being recognised and granted a right to exist - when that was done in May 1949.

bml00

From: bml00

Jan-6

Netanayu is fighting for his political career , he is facing a 3rd election because he was unable to obtain any majority 

Israel does not seek the destruction of Iran nor does the USA both seek an acceptable political strategic detente with Iran 

As the only democracy fully functioning in the region , with the deepest ties of any state possibly in the World there is of course many reason to see Israel survive 

BM 

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