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Derailed Thread   Africa and the Middle East

Started 11/21/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 102266 views. (Closed)(Closed to new replies)

Go away, bully.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)


Will you please come here and hold this guy's hand?

He's lonely and needs a playmate.


Well dang, I think I get it now, slackerx/ramsey/ricardonmath . . . you were pulling your know antics and you found 'em falling apart for some reason(s) . . . and suddenly you have lost interest in topics/issues concerning Israel and seem upset about that and now making loony false accusations . . .  oh well, be that as it may, lad . . .  

As have indicated - if an when you wish to get back ta addressing topics/issues concerning Israel let me know . . . will be more than happy ta address Israel with ya . . . till then be well, lad . . .


Stop trolling.

Why are you making false accusations, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath, etc. . . . 

Find somebody else to post to.

Pardon, but I have indicated that I get you no longer apparently wish to discuss topics/issues concerning Israel . . . and indicated that I have moved on . . . so why are still posting to me, geeze lad . . . 


BM is here. Talk to him.

I have and have also been engaging in some other threads as well, son . . . didn't ya notice . . . 

So, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath . . . why are you bothering me . . . I said that I get you apparently have lost interest in addressing anything about Israel . . . why do you keep bothering me, geeze son . . .  


Go away, bully.

Why are you projecting and still bothering me, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath . . . 


Go away, bully.

Geeze, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath, etc. . . . why are you projecting and now spamming me, eh son . . . 


Go away, bully.

Well dang, slackerx/ramsey/ricardonmath . . . do forgive me, but I get it now - you projecting, spamming, making false accusations etc. toward me . . . you think will get me to leave the forum . . . so you can get back ta your typical known games . . . sorry, lad, but those antics won't help ya in that regard . . . but I do thank you for a number of posts from you showing yer multiple nics, your penchant for spamming, your penchant for projection, etc. . . . you've done well in showing the games you engage in, son . . . perhaps one day you understand and realize that when you bombast and pull such antics . . . it actually hurts whatever advocacy you think you're engaged in . . . do I think that you will understand that, not likely . . . oh well . . .  

Go away, bully.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)


Yawn, thank ya for another projection and spamming post from ya, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath, my lad . . .

So, given the thread is about Israel . . . what topic/issue in that regard do you wish to address - since it seems you wish ta keep posting with me, son . . . or is it that you don't wish to do as the Host indicated to you . . . and instead you wish to continue projecting, spamming, and your assorted games, eh son . . . if the latter, why do you wish ta keep bothering me, eh lad . . .

Go away, bully.

8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)


Sigh . . . thank you for yet another projection and spamming post from ya, lad . . . but why are you still bothering me, eh slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath, etc. . . . 

Go away, bully.

In reply toRe: msg 511
8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)


Well it seems that, slackerx/ramsey/ricardomath, etc. . . . is locked into projection, spamming games . . . oh well - so here is a topic concerning Israel -

Marriage in Israel -

According to the country’s law, marriages in Israel are performed by sanctioned religious authorities–be they Muslim, Jewish, Druze, or Christian.

Within Israel, only the Israeli rabbinate can marry Jewish couples. And the Israeli rabbinate is an exclusively Orthodox institution, so it insists that the marriages its rabbis perform be subject to the strictures of traditional halakhah (Jewish law).

The Law of Return grants anyone with at least one Jewish grandparent, and his or her spouse, the right to immigrate to and settle in Israel and gain automatic citizenship. But the Israeli rabbinate will only perform the marriage of a person defined as Jewish by Orthodox halakhah–in other words, someone born to a Jewish mother or converted through the Orthodox rabbinate.

In 2010, Israel passed the Civil Union Law, allowing a couple to marry civilly in Israel if they are both registered as officially not belonging to any religion.  Out of the 300,000 Israelis not recognized as Jewish by the Israeli rabbinate who have no other religious affiliation, only 30,000 are officially registered as without a religion, so only they can take advantage of this law.  This law also does not help couples like Diana and Alexander, where one member of the couple is registered as Jewish, nor does it help a Jewish couple that cannot or do not want to marry through the Israeli rabbinate. Still, civil marriage advocates see this law as a small step in the right direction, and hope that it will lead to more far-reaching legislation.

Jewish Israelis who cannot or do not wish to marry through the Israeli rabbinate must explore other options. Since the Israeli population registry recognizes civil marriages performed abroad, a growing number of Israelis are marrying in civil ceremonies outside Israel, and circumventing the rabbinate altogether.

Cyprus, a relatively convenient locale near Israel, is a particularly popular marriage destination for Israelis. Israelis who also hold citizenship in another country have the option of marrying civilly at that country’s consulate in Israel. And some Israelis who wish to have a religious wedding, but do not want it to be Orthodox, marry in a Reform or Conservative ceremony either overseas or in Israel, but also have a civil marriage outside of Israel. ...

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8645 (RedBV)

From: 8645 (RedBV)


So an alternative to the above is 

Common Law Marriage -

In Israel, where there is no civil marriage, common law marriage is an alternative to religious marriage that the couple may not be eligible for or reject for ideological reasons. Since only a man and a woman of the same religion who are both citizens and residents of Israel can have a religious marriage in Israel, common-law marriage provides a legal alternative for gays, lesbians, interfaith and bi-national couples, women denied a divorce, religiously taboo unions, people who are religiously prohibited from marrying, people who don’t meet the religious definition of any faith, and more.

Common-Law marriage is an especially attractive alternative since New Family’s advocacy and litigation has generated judicial interpretations and policy changes that made common law marriage a status virtually equal to marriage. Common law couples might have been married in a civil or religious ceremony that is not recognized by the state-such as a Reform or Conservative Jewish marriage that is not recognized in Israel-or signed a shared living agreement or simply live together without a written agreement.

The growing popularity of common law relationships is part of a global trend. In Europe and North America, marriage rates have steadily declined and more and more couples live together without formal marriage. In Israel, an estimated 180,000 couples live together in common law marriage, 45% of which have anchored their relationship in a legal contract.

Legal Status

Common law relationships are not registered by the Interior Ministry and the personal status of the partners remains ‘single’. Yet. common-law partners can prove their eligibility for status and rights equal to married couples with Domestic Union Cards™ and contractual marriage.

Common law relationships are often anchored in a share living agreement that details the partnership between the two individuals and gives judicial authority to the relationship. Having a legal agreement eases the process by which a couple receives social benefits and clearly establishes the rights and obligations within the relationship and for its dissolution in the event of separation. ...


From: slackerx


8645 (RedBV) said...

bi-national couples

Back in the 1980s, a friend of mine who was on the faculty got a 1 year visiting position in the Math Department at some university in Israel. (I forget which university.)

He was born in Uruguay, but was a US Citizen. He called himself an MK (Missionary Kid) since his parents were Christian Missionaries from the USA. Apparently, MKs have a reputation for rebelliousness and misbehavior, but that's another story.

Anyway, when he was in Israel, he met an Jewish immigrant from Uruguay, and started dating her since they both spoke Spanish, having both been born in Uruguay. She was an Israeli citizen.

Since he was Christian, and she was Jewish, they were unable to get married in Israel.

  • Edited February 15, 2021 3:56 pm  by  slackerx