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Is Australia seeing the first Western Climate refugees?   Australia and Oceania

Started 1/1/20 by BerrySteph; 1072 views.
Jenifer (Zarknorph)
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/7/20

Thank you.

BerrySteph said:

I'm more thinking - how big is this in Australia?

It dominates everything.  It has also forced some staunch deniers to pull their heads out of the sand.

BerrySteph said:

In the world?

The Pacific is helping us out - which is a WONDERFUL dose of some much needed shaming.  They're sending over 1000 firefighters from PNG, also we're getting financial aid from islands that are sinking due to our reckless attitude towards coal exportation.

The whole WORLD is watching, for the simple reason that Australia is the litmus test.

Oh, and a big Cheers! to Pink for raising $45,000,000!! 

Rich, first world countries are watching in horror as another rich first world country is ACTUALLY suffering the effects of global warming.

It's the wake up call the world needed.  Nobody would care if this was happening in Africa.  Hell, nobody cared that it was happening in the Amazon!  Nobody cared about the Pacific Islanders.

But this is front page news that no one can look away from.

BerrySteph said:

Will a whole portion of Australia now be written off as uninhabitable desert?

The Great Dividing Range is the only thing holding back the desert from the Eastern seaboard.

Image result for great dividing range

It is on fire.  If it is destroyed, we will never recover, because the trees are needed to make rain.  The drought will just spread.

BerrySteph said:

How much will GDP be affected?

The Small Business Association has called for government ministers to "just shut up and sit on the back bench", as in resign their position, because their staunch refusal to accept the facts staring them in the face is killing us.

Tourism?  Forget about it. 

Also, no one would want to come and work here, like backpackers - who we rely on quite heavily during harvesting. 

Hundreds of thousands of livestock are dead and farms destroyed.

And vineyards.  Precious, precious vineyards.

I do not see us EVER recovering from this.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

1/7/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

I do not see us EVER recovering from this.

Wow. 

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

a big Cheers! to Pink for raising $45,000,000!! 

Wow.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: Rich, first world countries are watching in horror as another rich first world country is ACTUALLY suffering the effects of global warming.

My trouble often is that I only ever watch other people's telly - and that's not often the news. Sometimes Sky 24 news.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: nobody cared that it was happening in the Amazon! 

Indeed. Though I gather yours is much bigger.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: The Great Dividing Range is the only thing holding back the desert from the Eastern seaboard.

Wow. I'm sort of aware that only the best bits are burning. 

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: The Small Business Association has called for government ministers to "just shut up and sit on the back bench", as in resign their position, because their staunch refusal to accept the facts staring them in the face is killing us.

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: Tourism?  Forget about it. 

Not sure we'll abandon you!

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said: I do not see us EVER recovering from this.

Wow. But no exaggeration.

NISSY (NISSY2)

From: NISSY (NISSY2)

10/27/21

Fire does not end life. As soon as rain falls on the burn area, seeds germinate and all becomes green. In a few years, shrubs replace grasses and after a few more years, trees replace shrubs, if there is enough precipitation. The botany term for the process is plant succession. https://www.botanyyworld.com/plant-succession/
Alm (JurgensenAlm)

From: Alm (JurgensenAlm)

11/5/21

In just a few phrases U have managed to present a reasonable comment on the subject.

We human will adjust...as usual.

NISSY (NISSY2)

From: NISSY (NISSY2)

11/5/21

The media often is simplistic and reports what makes sense to people but actions and causes are not always simple. For instance, it is being reported that we need more forests to take carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere but more forests provide food for insects and other animals that just put the carbon dioxide back.

Forty years ago, I took a biogeography class from this guy: https://www.colorado.edu/geography/tom-veblen-0

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

6/15/22

The Dark Ages For Australian Energy Are Here

rain storms over SydneyWhen the sun finally sets on the West, the English-speaking people will find out that they are as fragile and expendable as the starving third-world children used by aid organizations as pickpockets.

Modernity is held together by cheap energy, not the rainbow-padding nonsense of progressive politics that does little but catch fire on the frayed wires of civilization, much like Rudd’s notorious pink batts.

CONTINUE READING

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

6/21/22

The Mad Rush Of The Green Lemmings

Australia’s new Australia Labor Party/Green/Teal government has a Zero Emissions plan, putting them on track to be the world leader of the Green Lemmings.

John Kerry of the USA was a strong contender to win the Green Lemming race. But he was given a stiff handicap by UN organizers because America has access to coal, oil, gas, hydro, and nuclear power, plus cross-border pipelines and power lines. [bold, links added]

Biden is trying to close these loopholes.

Eight nations have withdrawn from the Green Lemming Games. Russia has joined China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Mexico, Iran, and Turkey in forming a powerful new G8.

This hard-headed group ignores the net-zero dogma unless that suits their business plan. The G8 members have diverse reliable energy supplies — oil, coal, gas, hydro, and nuclear.

 

They use wind/solar for virtue-signaling or to earn billions making and selling millions of green toys to Net Zero Lemmings.

Europeans were disqualified in the Great Green Race — they were caught cheating.

They pretend to run on intermittent energy from windmills and sunbeams, but whenever these fail, they quickly fill the power shortfall with reliable energy from French nuclear, Scandinavian hydro, Polish and German coal, Icelandic geothermal, North Sea natural gas, and (sometimes) Russian gas, oil, and coal.

Australia has aging coal plants (marked for demolition), wildly unstable supplies of disruptive and intermittent green electricity, oodles of gas (but unwelcome in local markets), and abundant uranium for export (but none for local nuclear power).

Australia is also a remote island with no extension cords to neighbors with reliable energy. It is a clear favorite in the big green race.

Sometime soon, at dinnertime on a cold still night, the Aussie winners of the Great Green Lemming Race will be acclaimed by widespread blackouts and a failing economy.

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