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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/22/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Covid Blame Game

Raised by Trump up to - even beyond - the level of Goebbels.

What's the point of all this expensive Holocaust education if we behave just like the perpetrators?

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

Tell you what...

I'll include a link from now on, so people can find your post.

It's more than you deserve, so be thankful.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

Misogyny


bml00 said:

The mind boggles with the mentality of the people who commit these crimes

Say the people who torture kiddies.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

Conversation about past plagues throughout history.


bml00 said:

The Jews did not pull their water from the Wells

So what's this about Israeli settlers poisoning wells, BM?

Reported by the Treasurer of the Board of Deputies.

Along with some shocking other things being done by the glorious IDF.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/23/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Misogyny

Torturing kiddies linked to hating women?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

5/23/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Conversation about past plagues throughout history.

The people that BM insists are Jews are poisoning wells. According to the Board of Deputies (previously calling themselves "of British Jews").

Unfortunately, despite this being a visual image, nobody thought to include a picture of this disgusting crime.

So I've had to include an image from another unimpeachable source as details the threats that the Zionists make to our societies.

Board of Deputies treasurer ‘shocked’ by visit to West Bank

2nd May 2014 - Board of Deputies treasurer Laurence Brass has said he was horrified at what he witnessed during a visit to a West Bank village, describing it as an “eye-opener”.

Mr Brass, who was spending Pesach in Israel, took part in a private capacity in a one-day trip organised by Yachad UK and led by a guide from the anti-occupation Israeli army veterans’ group, Breaking the Silence.

His experience, as one of around a dozen Anglo-Jewish participants taken to the Palestinian village of Susiya, was shocking, he said.

“The village spokesman told us that he was very worried at the prospect of local Palestinian children being attacked by settlers on their way to school.

"Just 48 hours after we left, a six-year-old girl from the neighbouring village of Atuwani was admitted to hospital with head wounds after being stoned on her way to school, just as we had been warned might occur.

“I was shocked that this type of behaviour goes unchecked by the IDF.”

Mr Brass added that the abiding memory of his visit would be “the sight of an old rusty car being dumped down the village well, thus preventing the locals from having fresh water.

“I had also not known previously that, on the majority of the road signs in the area, the Arabic words have been deliberately obliterated. I had also not previously appreciated the ever increasing number of settler outposts which have sprung up all over Area C, which, although illegal, no one appears willing to prevent.”

“Area C” represents West Bank zones under the control of Israel.

Mr Brass said: “The miserable existence of the Palestinian villagers we met will stay with me for a long time. It was difficult to reconcile that we were celebrating the festival of freedom, while these villagers were surviving in such squalid surroundings. I returned very depressed.”

Yachad, which campaigns for a two-state solution, ran 17 trips to East Jerusalem or the West Bank in 2013, for over 400 members of Zionist youth movements.

The spokesperson for the Jewish settlements in the area, Assaf Fassy, denied the allegations of Mr Brass. https://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/board-of-deputies-treasurer-shocked-by-visit-to-west-bank-1.54343

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/24/20

BerrySteph said:

Torturing kiddies linked to hating women?

Nope.

That's why the post was moved here.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/28/20

Turkey and Russia square off in Libya


bml00 said:

..because you dont like the Turks , for me I would like to see both sides knock six bells out of each other

You've been extremely helpful on this subject before, BM.

In December 2010 you were still being diplomatic and trying to sooth the critics of Israel, saying "our ambiguous nuclear situation is not the issue, with or without nuclear capability we are still seeking peace, we have nothing to gain by eternal conflict".

But in June 2011, under Netanyahu and in his addresses to Knesset, Israel committed itself and us to WW3 by declaring that the Middle East was doomed to "eternal conflict".

"By declaring the conflict insoluble, Netanyahu is dooming Israel to live eternally by the sword, leaving no opening for reconciliation and understanding with the Palestinians and the Arab and Muslim world". https://www.haaretz.com/1.5022442

8 weeks later, in August 2011, you told us how pleased you were:

"Israel is fighting 24/7 its enemies, we have planned for eternal strife".

In November you only stepped back slightly, endorsing an evil worthy of Hitler in Poland and Russia:

"the IDF has predicted an eternal conflict with no end and i am unfortunately going to go with their analysis".

It was 8 years before I looked back in the Forum and discovered how well you'd documented the new orthodoxy and had decided on Holocaust II on all the brown people in your neighbourhood.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/29/20

Israeli Fighter jet leaving the UK.


You hate me for being right about almost everything.

Especially the history of terrorism by which Israel was founded - there was no possibility of them wanting to be good neighbours.

Ronan Bergman even proudly pinpoints the moment in 1907 when the Zionists dedicated themselves to terrorism:

p.6 - "Rise and Kill First The Secret History of Israel's Targeted Assassinations" - by Ronen Bergman, translated by Ronnie Hope

Herzl himself saw Palestine, the Jews’ ancestral homeland, as the ideal location for a future Jewish state ... a Jewish nation was to survive in peace. Herzl’s view came to be known as political Zionism.

Ben-Zvi and his seven comrades, on the other hand, were - like most other Russian Jews - practical Zionists ... would take what they believed to be rightfully theirs, and they would defend what they had taken.

This put the practical Zionists in immediate conflict with most of the Jews already living in Palestine. As a tiny minority in an Arab land - many of them peddlers and religious scholars and functionaries under the Ottoman regime - they preferred to keep a low profile. Through subservience and compromise and bribery, these established Palestinian Jews had managed to buy themselves relative peace and a measure of security.

But Ben-Zvi and the other newcomers were appalled at the conditions their fellow Jews tolerated ... Arab mobs attacked and plundered Jewish settlements ... had consigned their defense to Arab guards

... Ben-Zvi and his friends found this situation to be unsustainable and intolerable. Some were former members of Russian left-wing revolutionary movements inspired by the People’s Will (Narodnaya Volya), an aggressive anti-tsarist guerrilla movement that employed terrorist tactics, including assassinations.

Disappointed by the abortive 1905 revolution in Russia, which in the end produced only minimal constitutional reforms, some of these socialist revolutionaries, social democrats, and liberals moved to Ottoman Palestine to reestablish a Jewish state.

... Jaffa on September 29, 1907 ... flat was rented by Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, a young Russian who’d immigrated to Ottoman Palestine earlier that year ... That night, those eight people formed the first Hebrew fighting force of the modern age. They decreed that, from then forward, everything would be different from the image of the weak and persecuted Jew all across the globe.

... They named their fledgling army Bar-Giora, after one of the leaders of the Great Jewish Revolt against the Roman Empire, in the first century. On their banner, they paid homage to that ancient rebellion and predicted their future. "In blood and fire Judea fell," it read. "In blood and fire Judea will rise." ... Ben-Zvi would one day be the Jewish nation’s second president.

Ronen Bergman even tells us (above) that these were Russian Jews, from the land of the bomb-throwing anarchists.

He fails to mention that the settlements under attack were then, as now, land-grabbing Zionist enterprises with no use for religion whatsoever.

BAR-GIORA was not, at first, a popular movement. But more Jews arrived in Palestine from Russia and Eastern Europe every year - 35,000 between 1905 and 1914 - bringing with them that same determined philosophy of practical Zionism.

With more like-minded Jews flooding into the Yishuv, as the Jewish community in Palestine was called, Bar-Giora in 1909 was reconstituted into the larger and more aggressive Hashomer (Hebrew for "the Guard"). By 1912, Hashomer was defending fourteen settlements. Yet it was also developing offensive, albeit clandestine, capabilities, preparing for what practical Zionists saw as an inevitable eventual war to take control of Palestine. Hashomer therefore saw itself as the nucleus for a future Jewish army and intelligence service.

Ronen Bergman only hints at the fact the Zionists were totally at odds with the peace-loving Jews of Palestine, overwhelmingly recent immigrants drawn to Palestine in part by the welcoming and tolerant atmosphere. But he does tell remind us that these terrorists not only hated the religious Jews but practised terrorism on them too.

The members of Hashomer who led the Haganah at the outset were even willing to commit acts of violence against fellow Jews. Jacob de Haan was a Dutch-born Haredi - an ultra-Orthodox Jew - living in Jerusalem in the early 1920s. He was a propagandist for the Haredi belief that only the Messiah could establish a Jewish state, that God alone would decide when to return the Jews to their ancestral homeland, and that humans trying to expedite the process were committing a grave sin. In other words, de Haan was a staunch anti-Zionist, and he was surprisingly adept at swaying international opinion. To Yitzhak Ben-Zvi, by now a prominent Haganah leader, that made de Haan dangerous. So he ordered his death.

On June 30, 1924 - just a day before de Haan was to travel to London to ask the British government to reconsider its promise to establish a Jewish nation in Palestine - two assassins shot him three times as he emerged from a synagogue on Jaffa Road in Jerusalem.

That's the real history of the movement that members of this Forum claims to admire.

Ronen Bergman was/is a reporter in Israel and published a big book on this terrorism - with apparent approval from Mossad. He boasts that Israel had carried out 2,700 assassination plots since 1948 (not all successful but many with multiple victims).

I say that Ronen Bergman is boasting on Mossad's behalf, because his efforts are wholly supported by the terrorists, he tell us that he "interviewed hundreds of people in its intelligence a
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/29/20

The Covid Inquiry


RGoss99 said:

Speaking of credibality why do you think the U.S. set up the execution of Sadam and OBL, if not to cover their own butts.

Neither of those people could be put on trial by the US - far too much embarrassing, terrorist, collaboration been going on.

Saddam's blabbing would lead to Iran discovering what the US had done to have him wage the longest war in the 20th century on its innocent neighbour. Big trouble for the US.

And would publicise the three occasions (that's just what we know of, Glaspie, Kelly and Tutmeier) Bush 43 had told Saddm he was free to go ahead and seize Kuwait. Big trouble for the US.

OBL's trial would embarrass the US over the harm they'd done to the Russians - and something else. It appears that the Afghans had been keen to get rid of OBL ever since he'd arrived, penniless, from Sudan. Do you know anything of that?

Or will exchanging (mostly) good information just make Zarknorph very angry?

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