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Obamagate   America - all of it

Started 5/20/20 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 703 views.
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5/20/20

What's Michael Flynn got to do with Obamagate?

Details released by the Justice Department earlier this month reveal how Obama-era officials deliberated over how to handle Flynn and his case — and this appears to be what Mr Trump and his supporters are drawing on to support their theory.

Bruce Wolpe from Sydney's US Studies Centre said the Flynn case "is evidence number one in the charge that Obama and Biden were in a conspiracy to blacken Trump's name and make his presidency impossible".

And it may have been a rare rebuke from the former president that set the theory in motion.

The prelude to the President's May 10 Twitter storm was a leaked phone call on May 9 from Mr Obama that could also have caught Mr Trump's attention.

In the call with old White House staffers, Mr Obama said the "rule of law was at risk" in the US over the Attorney-General's decision to dismiss the case against Mr Flynn, feeding suspicions over his role in the case.

Republican congressman Andy Biggs of Arizona has labelled the supposed plot an attempted "coup", while conservative commentator David Limbaugh said it was "a smoking .357 Magnum in the hands of scores of those officials".

But other top officials have denied the conspiracy.

Republican senator and presidential ally Lindsey Graham rejected Trump-led calls for Mr Obama to testify in front of Congress over the matter.

And Attorney-General William Barr poured cold water on the allegations this week when he said he did not expect a Justice Department probe into Mr Trump's predecessors.

"So that's a little bit of a blanket over any real action on this, but it will not stop Trump from continuing to make the charge," Mr Wolpe said.

For his part, Mr Obama borrowed a Trump tactic to hit back, issuing his own single-word tweet last week that simply read: "Vote."

He also appeared to criticise the Trump administration's handling of the pandemic last weekend in an online high school graduation address — an unusual move as former presidents traditionally avoid criticism of those that succeed them.

But in another sign these are not usual circumstances, it's also this week been announced that Mr Obama's White House portrait will not be unveiled until Mr Trump is out of office.

The unveiling ceremony is usually attended by both the current and former presidents, but this unconventional presidency appears to have quashed that tradition as well.

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5/20/20

So will Obamagate shake the 2020 election?

It seems unlikely the conspiracy itself will become an election issue, but the theory is sure to continue to feature in the President's election campaign.

"[Trump is] fantastic at coining phrases and words to characterise certain situations," Mr Wolpe said.

"Sleepy Joe Biden, Obamagate, it gets people going, it gets people's imagination.

"I expect he will use that as a wedge in this campaign for his re-election in November."

It also depends on how much life the media breathes into the issue.

"The media really has to say, is this smoke or fire?" Mr Wolpe said.

"Let's go back to Hillary Clinton's emails, which were seen as a treasonous crime by the Republicans and Trump used it viciously and effectively in the media, and that's how he wants to use this."

At the moment, there appears to be a lot of smoke, but no fire yet to fan the flames of Mr Trump's charges.

Nevertheless, it hasn't stopped the President from claiming his predecessor is guilty of a crime bigger than Watergate.


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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/23/20

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BerrySteph

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5/23/20

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

a predictable move from the Trump political playbook but the media falls for it every time, writes James Glenday.

The media does this because stupid people latch onto these unpleasant, often racist, memes.

ElDotardo

From: ElDotardo

5/23/20

Do you read anything other than Left Wing propagandists? It's like referring to the National Inquirer as "The newspaper".

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

5/24/20

ElDotardo said:

Do you read anything other than Left Wing propagandists?

I read the news.

And look to scientific journals and respected sources when I need something backed up.

ElDotardo said:

It's like referring to the National Inquirer as "The newspaper"

Yes.  All biased blogs have zero credibility as a source.

Try reading something a little more grounded in reality.

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5/24/20

Printing The Truth Hasn't Kept Readership From Fleeing the ...

The only 'news' source to uncover and report the Edwards scandal . . . no wonder you dismiss it.

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