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The Inevitable Civil War begins   America - all of it

Started 1/7/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 47432 views.
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el gringo (ramseylurker)

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2/6/21

bml00 said:

it is also a Religious Country

Underground network readies homes to hide undocumented immigrants
 
By Kyung Lah, Alberto Moya and Mallory Simon, CNN
 
Updated 8:46 PM EST, Sun February 26, 2017

 (CNN) —  A hammer pounds away in the living room of a middle class home. A sanding machine smoothes the grain of the wood floor in the dining room.
 
But this home Pastor Ada Valiente is showing off in Los Angeles, with its refurbished floors, is no ordinary home.
 
“It would be three families we host here,” Valiente says.
 
By “host,” she means provide refuge to people who may be sought by US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, known as ICE. The families staying here would be undocumented immigrants, fearing an ICE raid and possible deportation.
 
The purchase of this home is part of a network formed by Los Angeles religious leaders across faiths in the wake of Donald Trump’s election. The intent is to shelter hundreds, possibly thousands of undocumented people in safe houses across Southern California.
 
The goal is to offer another sanctuary beyond religious buildings or schools, ones that require federal authorities to obtain warrants before entering the homes.
 
“That’s what we need to do as a community to keep families together,” Valiente says.
 
At another Los Angeles neighborhood miles away, a Jewish man shows off a sparsely decorated spare bedroom in his home. White sheets on the bed and the clean, adjacent full bathroom bear all the markers of an impending visit. The man, who asked not to be identified, pictures an undocumented woman and her children who may find refuge in his home someday.
 
The man says he’s never been in trouble before and has difficulty picturing that moment. But he’s well educated and understands the Fourth Amendment, which gives people the right to be secure in their homes, against unreasonable searches and seizures. He’s pictured the moment if ICE were to knock on his door.
 
“I definitely won’t let them in. That’s our legal right,” he says. “If they have a warrant, then they can come in. I can imagine that could be scary, but I feel the consequences of being passive in this moment is a little scary.”
 
The secret network
Rev. Zach Hoover wants to help immigrant families fearing deportation stay hidden and together.
 
The religious leaders have a name for their network: the Rapid Response Team. The idea is not necessarily a new one, according to Reverend Zach Hoover, executive director of the interfaith community organization LA Voice.
 
Hoover, 37, wasn’t an active member during the Sanctuary Movement of the 1
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2/6/21

bml00 said:

it is also a Religious Country

What BM (and Mike Pompeo) tends to forget is that we are also a multicultural country, so that, for example, in the post above, one can see how people of different faiths banded together to resist 4 years of Confederate Nazi rule, from the very start of the Trump Administration.

 
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2/8/21

bml00 said:

America is by its nature more to the right than the left

I would disagree.  The last two republican presidents lost the popular vote (Bush did get 50.7 in 2004, however).  Biden has a strong approval rating when Trump could never crack 50% on anything.

As for the rest, you can never truly unite a country that went to war with itself.

That fracture will never heal.

 
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bml00

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2/8/21

England went to war in a CIVIl war Spain the same so I disagree

BM

 
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2/8/21

The Roundheads' and the Cavaliers' skirmishes don't matter anymore because England shed itself of Puritanism.  Anyone would be grateful for that.

And any Catalan will tell you that Spain is hardly united.

 
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2/8/21

I beleive we could argue this forever and to avoid wasting Your time and mine I raise the flag

BM

 
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2/8/21

BullyMan said:

The more the left labels peoples

Let's be honest, shall we?

You're the one who labels us so you can kick us out of the country.

We've seen you do it right here in this forum.

You act like you own this country.

You're just a bully who thinks your whiteness and your guns make you superior.

You have no credibility when you attack America.

 
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2/8/21

FUCK OFF YOU ARE SO BORING IT IS INCREDIBLE NOW PISS OFF

 
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2/8/21

BullyMan said:

FUCK OFF YOU ARE SO BORING IT IS INCREDIBLE NOW PISS OFF

Oh geeze...another tough guy. You remind me of this guy.

The My Pillow guy came here to Iowa for a "Stop the Steal" rally at the Iowa Capitol in Des Moines on December 6, just one month after the election.

At the rally, a heavily armed white man wearing body armor shot his gun into a car carring 4 Black teenage girls, and wounded a 15 year old Black girl.

Des Moines Register

More details on Des Moines shooting that left a Black girl wounded and a white Army vet charged with attempted murder

Michael McKinney, 25, is charged with attempted murder for firing his gun into a car carrying four Black teenagers, all aged 16 or under, during a tense confrontation at a Trump rally Dec. 6 in Des Moines.

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Des Moines Register

Man charged with 5 new felonies in Iowa Trump rally shooting

In addition to attempted murder, the document charges McKinney with intimidation with a dangerous weapon, willful injury, assault while participating in a felony, reckless use of a firearm and going armed with intent.

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2/8/21

BullyMan said:

it is deeply proud of its achievements and Military

Some of those who BullyMan helped to deport by spreading racist anti-American propoganda.

Business Insider

The Biden administration says it will look into veterans and their families who were deported

The Biden administration says it is overhauling immigration policies to focus on threats, not military veterans and their families.

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