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The Inevitable Civil War begins   America - all of it

Started 1/7/21 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 47617 views.
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In the list below, I have included what I think are the six most concerning statements from Trump’s speech. And then I have mixed in various statements from prominent Democrats and progressives with regard to leftist mob violence. See if you can tell which are which:

    “Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up. You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives.”

    We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

    “I believe injustice is a threat to the safety of all people. Because once you have a group that is marginalized . . . they have no choice but to riot.”

    “We will not let them silence your voices.”

    “[W]e’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there and our country will be destroyed, and we’re not going to stand for that.”

    “And everyone beware, because they’re [violent protests] not gonna stop….They’re not gonna let up. And they should not. And we should not.”

    “We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.”

    “I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country, and maybe there will be. . . .”

    “We’re not going to let it happen.”

    “The cries for peace will rain down, and when they do, they will land on deaf ears, because your violence has brought this resistance. We have the right to fight back!”

    “Together we are determined to defend and preserve government of the people, by the people and for the people.”

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Sonate109

From: Sonate109

1/11/21

The museum is about commemorating the previously nameless and faceless people who died as a result of Jim Crow.  There's a museum in his honor too because shitty things need to be remembered too.

Give insight into how people were treated because of color. Why wouldn't you want that? 

  • Edited January 11, 2021 6:57 pm  by  Sonate109
Sonate109

From: Sonate109

1/11/21

The democrats? LMAO, This pitiful excuse we have for a president was giving the finger to the justice department, to the court justices even he appointed.   Had he showed respect for the system, one which BTW was less problematic in 2020 than it was in 2016, and simply conceded instead of feeding paranoid conspiracy theories to the gullible who were hungry for it, the storming of the Capitol would not have happened.

I note that in deference to your actually evaluating the findings of those courts which actually looked at the signed petitions and the findings of small insignificant voter irregularity and abuse and determined that these few errors couldn't possibly have altered the outcome of the vote count to the extent that Trump wanted either all the votes thrown out or a new election, you start up again with the mail in vote as if that was a significant source of error. Very cute!

 

Sonate109

From: Sonate109

1/11/21

40 miles north of NYC. Any upper respiratory symptoms such as a runny nose, post nasal symptoms or chest cold results in violent coughing and gagging. Part of my left lung is still collapsed and raw so along with the gagging there is blood. The only way I get it back is by deep breathing exercises which trigger even more coughing.  All my upper diaphragm muscles are injured, back and abdominals sore to the extent from the coughing I am unable to sleep more than two hours at a time. I picked up something else, irregular heartbeats which scare the hell out of me.  Probably more than you wanted to know. It's in the 20's right now.

  • Edited January 11, 2021 7:05 pm  by  Sonate109
Sonate109

From: Sonate109

1/11/21

Morte a Venezia    Visconti.....   Guiliani should have as dignified an end.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=164&fbclid=IwAR3p2BKGGPZMMwK2l3zixCAEUWCj6nLFZErufg5NgAWzxL1zUJKNOyHCEu0&v=36QBU474nqM&feature=youtu.be

Guiliani should have as dignified an end.

  • Edited January 11, 2021 7:37 pm  by  Sonate109
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/12/21

If you have never watched his TV shows, seen his documentaries or read any of his books, then I'm sure you can see how declaring him a liar because he is overweight is a tad ignorant.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/12/21

It was too easy to tell Trump's lines from liberal quotes.

The left are coherent and can construct a sentence.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/12/21

Oh boy... the gummit is messin with yer guns!


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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

1/12/21

Analysis



There were 4,743 victims of lynching between 1882 and 1968. Of those, 1,297 were white and 3,446 were black. (Lynchings occurred in 44 states. There were more whites than blacks lynched in 25 of those 44 states).

That means that there were a hundred white Union soldiers who died in four years' fighting to end slavery for every black who was lynched in 86 years.


I once asked you to guess how many of those lynched were guilty of the crimes they had been strung up for.  If I remember correctly (please correct me if I'm remembering wrong), you said, "about a third".  Sounds roughly right.  I wouldn't be surprised if it were more, but I won't quibble.

So we've got about 2000 innocent black guys who were murdered by the mob in just under a century.

Sad and thank goodness we don't do this kind of thing anymore.  But try to keep it in perspective.  Millions of innocent people all over the world have lost their lives from injustice, often sponsored by governments, never mind the millions more who were victims of mob violence.

Honouring Confederate war heroes?  I'm betting that many of them were more deserving of a statue than a large number of lynching victims.  How many people know their full stories or care?   Could you make money opening a Confederate War Heroes Museum today?


Those considering the appropriateness of tributes to heroes of the past who don't measure up to our standards need to be mindful of not only of how times change but the stupendous hypocrisy involved in selectively removing some monuments while leaving others intact.  We see no calls for demolishing Maya pyramids even though we know all about the bloody rituals that were carried out on top of them.  The statue of Maquina, a famous and well-documented Northwest Coast Indian chief with a large retinue of slaves who is commended for restricting human sacrifice among the Nuu-chah-nulth (Nootka) to only occasional big events instead of weekly or monthly potlatches, still stands in Victoria, B.C. but the statue of John A. MacDonald, considered by many to be the father of the country, was removed because he wrote that Indians should become assimilated to Canadian society at large and become citizens like everyone else, thus disrespecting Native culture.

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