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Brexit - Hard vs Soft   The U.K and Europe

Started 6/18/17 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 47115 views.

From: adwil


PTG (anotherPTG) said:

The Observer is reporting that the UK suffered a 68% drop in exports since January when the Brexit transition period ended.

Please explain. 

" A month on since the end of the Brexit transition period, the Port of Dover is pleased to already be welcoming over 90% of the freight traffic volumes typical of this time of year following the significant stockpiling experienced before Christmas."

PTG (anotherPTG)

From: PTG (anotherPTG)


What you are seeing are empty fleets of trucks returning to the UK!

What you see is not necessarily what you get as Mr Gove knows quite well

Lies... Damned Lies... and then Statistics!

PTG (anotherPTG)

From: PTG (anotherPTG)


Hauliers Angry at Brexit Fuelled Drop in Exports

The Road Haulage Association are angry at the government for having not only presided over what they believe is a 68% drop in exports since brexit, but their...

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From: adwil


Yes, I've read it. 

I see an assertion but no actual evidence and frankly it's far too early for there to be any evidence. There was massive stockpiling during December too in anticipation of problems when Brexit finally came in and that will have had some effect.

I also see that the biggest port presents a different picture, though they do confirm that some trucks have been turned away because their paperwork was incorrect. 

I expect that coronavirus has had its effect too. I note that France is demanding PCR testing for lorry drivers before they allow them in. Unlike the lateral flow tests, the PCR can take a couple of days before a result is available. 

In these circumstances, if there are delays, then what the Hauliers Assoc are doing is  getting in their excuses and saying 'It's not our fault, Guv."