Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Personally I draw the line at deliberately targeting innocent civilians.

Even though targeting innocent civilians is established Israeli policy, more than any other regime on earth ever?

And Israel's foreign policy objectives (burn everywhere, basically) are backed by us, we're forcing ourselves along the same route?

Di (amina046) said:

I have seldom heard a more succinct and still well thought out explanation. Both Mr. Lister and Hiltermann make a most important case for a review of those designation.

Its not going to happen.

Terrorism is another of the terms we use as a bludgeon to disguise the fact that we're doing far more of the same thing.

If they were adults, the parents are not responsible! Only in Israel do they go after the whole family, destroying their homes etc.

Di (amina046) said:

If they were adults, the parents are not responsible!

Okay, but if those adults were making threats about taking part in a terror attack and their families did nothing... I think they ARE responsible.

I bet he will be popular with his baps

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Retired Sydney baker Van Kham Chau, 70, is jailed for being a member of democracy and human rights organisation Viet Tan, which is considered a terrorist organisation by the Vietnamese Government.

The Vietnamese Government seems to be puppets of the US. Its patriotic elements wiped out by the Christmas bombing, forced to accept the debts of the previous regime, permitted to re-unite the country for the first time, its doing what the US tells it to do.

And in return, getting the same freedom that the US has, to persecute anyone seeking justice.

Is there any government in the world that is not a US puppet?

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Is there any government in the world that is not a US puppet?

You tell me?

Woman killed a motorcyclist in the UK recently, left the country and my government is doing nothing about it.

If that's not the action of a government under occupation, tell me what is.