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Racism   General Confusion

Started 6/13/19 by Jenifer (Zarknorph); 22420 views.
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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Jun-12

I agree.

But there has to be a clear line.

Perhaps instead of tearing them down, move them all to their own museum devoted to assholes of history.

Perhaps this new generation is the first to really start learning about the kind of people they really were.

That's why they're so pissed off.

Either way, no one will ever agree where the line should be.

And no one side gets to determine that line.

Otherwise we'd be tearing down Disneyland.

IOW - I have NO answers.  Only ideas.

bml00

From: bml00

Jun-12

I do not belong to the same idea club as you , I learnt and have been fascinated by History and the peoples and events that have shaped it .

If one group for whatever reasons decides to move XY or Z then as sure as Gd made little green apples the other group will react , why change what has been why change something which is part of history .

The movements people are seeing now be it the BLM or whoever are moving to become political forces and that is wrong they are trying to move goal posts and the reaction to such acts will be totally counterproductive .

bm

adwil

From: adwil

Jun-12

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

And if it weren't for "political correctness", Germany would still have a swastika for a flag.

Sadly that got rid of a European good luck symbol that commonly appeared on greetings cards, posters and other printed documents. You can still find it in India but its association with the Nazis wiped it out in Europe.

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From: adwil

Jun-12

Jenifer (Zarknorph) said:

Having a statue to a slave trader does nothing to enhance the culture of any society.

Of course it does. You have a reminder that a generous local benefactor got some of his wealth by selling slaves. Colston's statue wasn't put up because he sold slaves but because he endowed, hospitals, schools, almshouses and churches in his native Bristol. 

There is a perfectly clear system that citizens can implement if they want a statue removed. They hold a meeting, set up an organisation and gather the signatures of 5% of the electors and there has to be a local referendum on the issue. If a majority vote to remove Colston, that's what happens. I hope the iconoclasts get charged, appear in court and are fined heavily otherwise it'll happen again and again.

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From: Jenifer (Zarknorph)

Jun-13

Yes. That is definitely better that mob rule - but all things are.

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Jun-21

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Jun-29

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katiek2

From: katiek2

Jun-30

"People of colour are often underrepresented in the workplace and at school compared to white people; nearly 60 per cent of the population reported having English, Irish and Scottish ancestry in the 2016 census."  quoted from your article above

What is the above statement trying to say?  If 60% of the population is anglo, why should their representation in the workforce be any less than 60%?  Conversely, if people of color are 40% of the population, why should their representation in the workplace be any more than 40%?  I'm not trying to say that's the way it is, just why shouldn't it be that way, assuming equal levels of experience, education, etc.?

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