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Racism   General Confusion

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adwil

From: adwil

8/24/19

BerrySteph said:

"Wall and Tower, aka Tower and Stockade, was a settlement method used by Zionist settlers in Mandatory Palestine during the 1936–39 Arab Revolt."

The last phrase is the important one. "1936–39 Arab Revolt."

There was a war going on against the British and against the Jews. Not fortifying settlements or founding an unfortified settlement, would have been rather silly, since the Jews were in the 'firing line' like the British, who also constructed forts.

Morris in 'Righteous Victims' states that several hundred Jews were killed during the revolt. (p.160), so I think that justifies the forts.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/24/19

adwil said:

Three letters is a disappointment as is the fact that you've used Wikipedia, rather than 'Righteous Victims' (which has longer excerpts). If you'd used RV, you'd have known that there were positive, non-violent, non-exploitative settlers during the First Aliya, (and the second Aliya) and it's disappointing you focus on the negatives, when there are positives that provide a more balanced view.

Garbage, pure garbage.

Your own right-wing Israeli historian makes it clear that the Zionists, even as early as 1882 when they were parasitising on the 4 year old Rothschild plantations, were intent on seizing the entire country from people who were much, much too gentle and tolerant for their own good.

Maybe some of your ancestors set out to commit the same forms of genocide - but I doubt it.

Rather you've been bribed or blackmailed to defend atrocity and the path to WW3 or at least, Holocaust 2.

Why did you boast of attending a seminar on the Bermuda Conference but refuse to talk about anything you picked up?

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/24/19

adwil said: There was a war going on against the British and against the Jews. Not fortifying settlements or founding an unfortified settlement, would have been rather silly, since the Jews were in the 'firing line' like the British, who also constructed forts. 

There was no war - there were more immigrants forced out of Germany by Zionist machinations and they were intent, as they'd been for 50 years (since 1882) on seizing the land.

The infiltrated British Army very, very shamefully attacked the almost totally unarmed natives - and the immigrants set about a massive land-seizure. (Note - the British government was appalled at the idea of giving the immigrants a state on the property of others and horrified when the Peel Commission sided with the Zionist demands).

Meanwhile, yet again, you're both defending atrocity and a Lebensraum operation and failing to answer the question.

adwil said: Morris in 'Righteous Victims' states that several hundred Jews were killed during the revolt. (p.160), so I think that justifies the forts.

Nothing justifies racist appropriation - unless you're a supporter of the Nazis (and you clearly are, as your angry defence of Kurt Becher proves).

Meanwhile the Zionists (including the right-wing Israeli historian I use for convenience) systematically exaggerate immigrant deaths and deny native deaths.

And of course, you've failed to answer the question:

Where is the map of these very, very important settlements, and what is their link to the 150,000 German Jews who had just arrived in Palestine?

Who were they bought from, when and how much was paid?

The Zionists cannot tell me because they know that vast tracts of land were simply stolen by terrorists who proceeded to ethnically cleanse the previously very productive farmers, as they'd always intended..

I can find no evidence of any of this land having been purchased - the Wacky only has it from an essay in a book by an art-gallery that has no pictures.

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BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/24/19

BerrySteph said:

Why did you boast of attending a seminar on the Bermuda Conference but refuse to talk about anything you picked up?

PS - you've not answered that question either - was it a seminar or was it an all-expenses paid jolly that you earned by your destructive lies in Forums like this?

adwil

From: adwil

8/24/19

OTT, as ever.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/24/19

adwil said:

OTT, as ever.

You've angrily and repeatedly defended a top Jew-killing and Holocaust organising Nazi.

Defending the Lebensraum that the British Army was bribed and blackmailed into starting is child's play in comparison.

adwil

From: adwil

8/24/19

BerrySteph said:

There was no war

I guess readers can make up their own minds.

https://www.paljourneys.org/en/timeline/highlight/158/great-arab-revolt-1936-1939

https://www.justvision.org/glossary/1936-1939-arab-revolt

https://www.encyclopedia.com/humanities/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/palestine-arab-revolt-1936-1939

British Security Forces:
262 killed
c. 550 wounded
Jews:
c. 300 killed
4 executed
Arabs:
c. 5,000 killed
c. 15,000 wounded
108 executed
12,622 detained
5 exiled

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1936%E2%80%931939_Arab_revolt_in_Palestine

adwil

From: adwil

8/24/19

BerrySteph said:

Why did you boast of attending a seminar on the Bermuda Conference but refuse to talk about anything you picked up?

1. I don't boast, ever.

2. I told you what I learnt at the seminar.

3. You didn't believe me.

4. Not my problem.

adwil

From: adwil

8/24/19

"You've angrily and repeatedly defended a top Jew-killing and Holocaust organising Nazi."

We've been through this at least three times on various fora. I defended a German officer who killed no Jews, didn't organise the Holocaust and worked with Jewish groups at risk to his own life, to save the lives of many Hungarian Jews. 

I do not intend to re-open this discussion.

BerrySteph

From: BerrySteph

8/24/19

You've posted us the hasbara of the ethnic cleansers - provably dishonest on almost every other subject.

Meanwhile, you've failed to answer the question:

Where is the map of these very, very important settlements, and what is their link to the 150,000 German Jews who had just arrived in Palestine?

Who were they bought from, when and how much was paid?

The Zionists cannot tell me because they know that vast tracts of land were simply stolen by terrorists who proceeded to ethnically cleanse the previously very productive farmers, as they'd always intended..

I can find no evidence of any of this land having been purchased - the Wacky only has it from an essay in a book by an art-gallery that has no pictures.

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