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Exploring The Design Space   Ammunition <20mm

Started 25/7/15 by NathanielF; 99542 views.
Red7272

From: Red7272

13-Sep

roguetechie said:

Yes, a 4moa gun that can never be better than that is the closest thing to the best we have...

Given what most assault rifles are used for that isn't too bad. I'm not really a fan of the bullpup either because of the LOP, but as the basis of a good rifle it's an excellent place to start.

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

13-Sep

It has some interesting detail features (the cam system I ripped off for all of my rotary bolt rifles, very good idea), but overall I disagree. It's not a space efficient design.

roguetechie

From: roguetechie

13-Sep

Honestly, my favorite pick for bullpups is still the AUG.

An honest to God super AUG 2.0 could definitely be worth doing but we all know it's never gonna happen.

As far as tavor goes, settling for four moa is a distinctly suboptimal decision no matter how you want to try to spin it in an era when bargain basement AR's that are only partially in spec are genuinely difficult to make shoot that bad...

Like it's just not actually justifiable, so unjustifiable in fact that the country the gun was ostensibly made for doesn't run it in any unit where they're allowed to use anything else.

autogun

From: autogun

14-Sep

roguetechie said:

Honestly, my favorite pick for bullpups is still the AUG.

I am fond of that gun, as well. A couple of years ago or so I visited Steyr and had some discussions with them, as well as a detailed presentation on the AUG. What struck me is that this 40-year-old gun is still highly advanced today. I do think that Steyr missed an opportunity, though: instead of developing yet another 5.56 mm AR-15 descendant, they really should have put the money into a 7.62 x 51 AUG. That way, they could have offered armies the opportunity to adopt both 5.56 mm and 7.62 mm rifles/ARs with matched handling - and had something that could easily be converted to 6.5 mm Creedmoor or whatever. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

tidusyuki

From: tidusyuki

14-Sep

Thanks for the links. After looking at those patent images for quite sometime unfortunately i still don't really understand the barrel mating procedure nor how the barrel is supposed to be placed tightly inside the upper. The detailed description has so many engineering terms that are quite hard to grasp either. Mind explaining it to me?

Also I'm just really curious about it. How is the barrel block/trunnion manufactured and attached in the extruded upper?
here in the MCX barrel block there's no visible screws nor pin unlike on those SCAR type rifles.





 

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QuintusO

From: QuintusO

18-Sep

So the most recent versions of 5.56 Supercruise (which is getting renamed soon for confusion reasons) is outperforming 6.8mm GP for raw energy at 1KM.

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

26-Sep

Supercruise continues to do well:


  • Edited 26 September 2020 18:45  by  QuintusO
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