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NGSW Phase 2 Consolidation and info   Small Arms <20mm

Started 30/8/19 by gatnerd; 314538 views.
roguetechie

From: roguetechie

19-Nov

No sig has not won the mg338 contract at all...

And shit like this is why many of us dislike sig strongly because of their deceptive ass marketing department.

stancrist

From: stancrist

19-Nov

Gr1ff1th said:

the contract also leaves open the possibility of the adoption of the TV Rifle, and then later adopting the future Lonestar LWMMG

That seems unlikely.  One intent of NGSW is a common caliber for squad weapons.

Having a mix of 6.8mm rifles and .338 machine guns would be contrary to that goal.

And it's one thing to carry a .338 MG with a 20-round starter belt for a promo video.

      Lightweight Medium Machine Gun (LWMMG) - .338NM Cartridge. - YouTube

But, is a .338 machine gun truly practical for automatic riflemen in actual combat?

  • Edited 19 November 2021 17:04  by  stancrist
gearmrk

From: gearmrk

19-Nov

SIG will be adopted as an interim solution until CT matures.  ??

Gr1ff1th

From: Gr1ff1th

19-Nov

By LWMMG I mean the Lonestar 6.8 MMG (seeing as it's a rifle caliber basically, and I added LW for lightweight)), that was my bad

And no I don't think .338 MG's are practical at the squad level, even with CT/TV Ammo

  • Edited 19 November 2021 21:25  by  Gr1ff1th
stancrist

From: stancrist

19-Nov

Gr1ff1th said:

By LWMMG I mean the Lonestar 6.8 MMG (seeing as it's a rifle caliber basically, and I added LW for lightweight)), that was my bad

Yeah, when you said Lonestar LWMMG, I thought you were talking about this:  

"In addition to access to the NGSW firearm intellectual property, LoneStar is also moving forward with the GD-OTS Lightweight Medium Machine Gun design in 338 Norma Mag..."

US Army Grants NGSW Novation from General Dynamics-OTS, Inc to LoneStar Future Weapons - Soldier Systems Daily

I googled, but didn't find anything about a Lonestar 6.8mm MMG.  Did I miss that part of the discussion?

Gr1ff1th

From: Gr1ff1th

19-Nov

Again, this also looks to be an error from me, In the original press release discussed here they mentioned that Lonestar was working on lightweight medium machine gun, which I took to mean a 6.8 MMG, I didn't know they were going to continue development of the GD-LWMMG in .338, which now I know.

As a side note, does anyone know how much pull a .338 MG actually has in the US Military, it seems like a solution looking for a problem, although maybe high pressure TV .338 will change that somewhat.

BruhMomento

From: BruhMomento

19-Nov

wdym by pull in the millitary?

stancrist

From: stancrist

19-Nov

Gr1ff1th said:

a .338 MG...seems like a solution looking for a problem

Totally agree.

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