So almost like an aimbot. When the generell issue rifle of the troops get some sort of this optic. Let's say m5/M7 Is happening with that kinda optic..... There isn't a need for a DMR anymore or am I wrong? 

manimal87 said:

So almost like an aimbot. When the generell issue rifle of the troops get some sort of this optic. Let's say m5/M7 Is happening with that kinda optic..... There isn't a need for a DMR anymore or am I wrong? 

For me, a "fully dressed" M7 (with scope & suppressor) is already a DMR, just because of the >6.5 kg weight and reduced ammo capability.

EmericD said:

For me, a "fully dressed" M7 (with scope & suppressor) is already a DMR, just because of the >6.5 kg weight and reduced ammo capability.

Why?  It's clear that >6.5 kg weight and 20-rd magazine capacity are not what makes a rifle a DMR.

I like youre sarcasm :D

It was not meant to be sarcasm.

Oh... I've misread it... I've seen the picture of the m38. Which I mean isn`t much more than a m27 with a different optic.      

So far as I i know DMR terminology goes like that :    must be semi auto, Around 1.5 - 2 around MOA. Optic for close and longer range. Match grade ammo. Basically extends the range of Standart infantry rifle. 

Sounds about right, except for the "must be semi auto" part.

Note that the New Zealand army DMR is capable of full-auto.

The full-auto selector can be seen at 1:08-1:12 in this video.

Oh yes.... You're right..... I was aware that some of them have the fun switch too. Like mk14 variants and SVU variants. 

I think that the logic of the M38 and the M7 are 180° appart.

In the case of the M38, they add a scope (and a bipod) on a "high end" 5.56 mm assault rifle.

In the case of the M7, they build the system (rifle + ammo + optics) to deliver "better than DMR" performances (the 6.8x51 mm Training Practice round fired from a 13.5" barrel is already delivering better trajectory than the M118LR fired from a 20" barrel, and the trajectory of the high pressure 6.8x51 mm is close to a .338LM), then will probably downgrade the performances to "carbine level" by issuing the system without the scope.

Do you think that will happen if they adopt it? In the pre squad Layout with the new NGSW weapons there were just xm250 and M7 pictured.... Everyone had the same M7 rifle. (optic + Accessoires).

Do you mean in your post M7 rifle with optic for DM. And M7 without optic for rest of squad? 

Otherwise they could just issue the m4 carbine for everyone except xm250 and M7 for MG and DM. 

BTW..... Do you know if SOCOM s MRGG-A and MRGG-S project is still running?