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SOCOM 6.5 and .338 news   Small Arms <20mm

Started 14-May by gatnerd; 1251 views.
autogun

From: autogun

18-Jun

Sounds as if SOCOM is holding fire and waiting to see how NGSW turns out: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2020/06/18/socom-the-next-generation-squad-weapon/

 

Guardsman26

From: Guardsman26

19-Jun

To be honest, there's not much development work that needs to be done to implement 6.5 mm CM in a Mk48 or MAG58 (and MG5). You can be last dollar that FN USA will be continuing to perfect the calibre change. 

stancrist

From: stancrist

19-Jun

Guardsman26 said...

To be honest, there's not much development work that needs to be done to implement 6.5 mm CM in a Mk48...

Especially seeing as how they've already done it.   ;^)

https://fnamerica.com/press-releases/fn-to-unveil-prototype-6-5-caliber-mk-48-mod-2-machine-gun-at-2019-sofic-conference/

Guardsman26

From: Guardsman26

19-Jun

stancrist said...

Especially seeing as how they've already done it.   ;^)

https://fnamerica.com/press-releases/fn-to-unveil-prototype-6-5-caliber-mk-48-mod-2-machine-gun-at-2019-sofic-conference/

Exactly, so they're just not buying large quantities of 6.5 mm CM machine guns until they see how NGSW pans out. I must admit, I'd like to see this calibre in an H&K MG5. 

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

22-Jun

BTW, what do you think of MG4/MG5 prices?

Spanish Army bought a good number of MG4 and the price was quite outrageous. Some in the Spanish Army feel like captive customers of HK

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

22-Jun

They charge the USMC 4.5x what an M4 costs, for M27s. I'm not surprised.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

22-Jun

Yep, but here tenders are even funny: "request for proposals for assault rifles. A 1.5 magnifier needs to be installed in the handle"

 

It is really terrible. We are captive customers of HK since 1999

EmericD

From: EmericD

22-Jun

QuintusO said...

They charge the USMC 4.5x what an M4 costs, for M27s. I'm not surprised.

For the original contract with ~8400 rifles, but for the new contract of 50,000 rifles the unitary price is much cheaper.

QuintusO

From: QuintusO

22-Jun

That's not what I heard, but I'm not going to spread rumors.

poliorcetes

From: poliorcetes

22-Jun

MG4 price for Spanish contract was close to 14k

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